[Krimel] > I think the problem I have been hammering away at in this discourse with you > and Ham is of a Kuhnian nature. There have been paradigm shifts; radical > restructuring of the framework of western thinking. Kuhn talks chiefly of > Copernicus, Newton and Einstein, as exemplars of these intellectual schemas. > I would say that QM, and Chaos represent two more such shifts. The problem > is not every one makes the shift and you dudes are operating in the world as > it was seen two or three paradigm shifts ago.
[Platt] Well, dude, if you'll explain how your Kuhnian paradigm shifts have changed Pirsig's metaphysics, Ham's philosophy or even Plato's Ideals (which a physicist like Roger Penrose believes in) I'll be glad to listen. (I can't speak for Ham, of course.) Offhand it sems to me you have your work cut out in showing how chaos theory or whatever supports your moral allegiance to feeding the hungry and healing the sick, a paradigm that's been around for at least 2,000 years. And if as you say we instantly estimate probabilities at the pre- intellectual level to get along in the everyday world of life and living, why be concerned with some esoteric scientific paradigm regarding QM and chaos theory? As you've agreed (I think) there is more to this world than is dreamt of in the scientific worldview. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
