> [Platt] Seems to work pretty well in everyday life. It always amazes me that > they can land the shuttle with pinpoint accuracy. Besides, I'd say there is > a 100 percent probability that apples will not fall from trees up. > > [Krimel] > Newtonian determinism does not work at all in everyday life. It is an > illusion. But the real problem was not so much determinism per se as the > belief that determinism equals prediction. We have discussed this at length > several times, I am frankly at a loss to explain the persistence of this > illusion.
[Platt] I don't know the difference between Newtonian determinism and plain old determinism but in any case determinism works just fine for me in everyday life. I eat when I'm hungry and drink when I'm dry. > [Platt] Unpredictable responses to DQ as exemplified in the brujo > story don't fit a deterministic worldview. > > [Krimel] > I don't recall that the issue of predictability came up in the brujo > discussion. But the point is the range of options available in a time of > upheaval it restricted. The brujo was operating well within that range of > probabilities. But please find some other example I really don't want to > rehash the inappropriateness of this one. [Platt} As far as I can tell there is nothing in your worldview that is outside the range of probabilities. > [Platt] > "Chance" is no better explanation for a singular event than "miracle." > > [Krimel] > I would say that miracle or divine will are no better explanations than > "chance". [Platt] So were even on that score. :-) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
