Hi Krim

Here's a book that looks at the problematic role
of values in science:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knowledge-Wisdom-Revolution-Science-Humanities/dp/0955224004/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196598803&sr=1-1

It's had some amazing reviews as shown on Amazon.

David M

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From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism


> [Platt]
> I take it then that you agree with the notion that man invents morals
> for himself, are artificial and can be just about any old thing as opposed
> to Pirsig's thesis that morals are evolutionary, natural, and built into 
> the
> fabric of the universe. In other words, you reject the central premises of
> the MOQ.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> [Krimel]
> This is among the most puzzling posts I have yet encountered in this 
> forum.
> I do think that morals are evolutionary, natural and built into the fabric
> of the universe and I disagree with Pirsig's assessment that science 
> claims
> they are artificial and completely arbitrary. So it would seem that one of
> the three of us is confused.
>
> Efforts to find a specific set of moral in nature have not faired well.
> Gould writes about this very well in his collections of essays. Social
> Darwinism was a disastrous attempt to interpret morality writ in tooth and
> claw. But if for example you are able to see how both cannibalism and 
> burial
> of the dead both serve the same morality or the same moral functions then
> perhaps we are actually on the same page for a change.
>
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