[Platt]
I think we see Dynamic Quality differently. To me it's a moral force, like
other forms of energy, that people respond to. You seem to see it as a
capacity for change that some static patterns, not necessarily people,
possess. Morality (value) doesn't enter into your view. Is that correct?

[Krimel]
I think we are closer than you might think. You are correct that I do not
see morality as having some independent existence. Nor do I see it as energy
in a physicalist sense. Rather I think it is our response to DQ. By this I
mean a biological response, programmed into us by evolution. We enter the
world equipped to recognize things that are good for us and things that are
bad. We are, even into adulthood, guided by these emotional reactions to
events around us. As I have said many times, morality and purpose are not
properties of nature there are properties of us. As you have on occasion
point out residing in us makes them properties of nature but I would say not
in a particularly cosmic sense.

The real issue is that while you do not see science as suggesting any
particular view of morality, I do. For me at least the morality is evolution
and evolutionary. Our moral imperative is to rear our young and make the
world a better place for those who come after us. I would suggest that few
societies have ever existed or at least long endured in defiance of this
moral precept. 

Ours seems to be hell bent on becoming an exception. I'd say the odds in
favor are not good.

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