[DM]
> I could not think of any extra way to explain.
> Try this. I need to write a sentence in an email.
> There are more POSSIBLE (emphasis on word) sentences
> then could
> be written between now and the end of time. I have
> access to a small
> part of this possible range, yet even this is vast
> and I will die before I
> could write all the sentences I am capable of. But I
> live and so I must 
> choose.
> And these are the sentences I give you. From the
> possible (that is real and
> exists for me, how else do I access it) I decide
> which sentences to make
> actual. And here they are. Quite magical and a big
> responsibility when you 
> come
> to think of it. The past puts us within reach of a
> certain range of the 
> possible,
> but we can only actualise a small part of what is
> possible for us, so we 
> have
> to choose. Such is life.It is a forsaking of much
> that is possible to 
> actualise very
> little of it.
> Does that help?


     DM, it's not the defining of random and choice
that I'm having difficulty with.  I said in my first
response to this line of discussion that both are
dependently originated.  I see randomness and choice
decisions occuring at the same time.  Randomness and
preferences happening co-dependently.  We can make
them distinct, and I mentioned that easily happens. 
I'm pointing out how both can happen even in the same
event.
     Wiktionary says random is as follows:

     "1- All outcomes being equally probable
      2- Unpredictable
      3- Having apparent lack of plan, cause or
reason"


     There were other definitions, feel free to look
at them.

     Choice (same source):
   "1- An option; a decision; an opportunity to choose
or select something.
     2- One selection or preference; that which is
chosen or decided; the outcome of a decision.
     3- Anything that can be choosen.
     4- (definite: the choice): The best or most
preferable part"


     I don't like to split hairs, and I don't want to
make this an all of nothing definition.  But at this
moment I see randomness as dynamic, and choice is the
valuing process amidst this unpredictable, lack of
reasoning events.  We, as humans, may apply reason,
and make a choice.  We may prefer something in this
randomness, and make a final decision and pick
something.  Now, what would these applied together, in
unison, be called.  The event process is one way of
looking at this.  I don't see these (choice and
random) being separate events, but co-dependent in a
bigger event that includes the two.
    So, what were you trying to get at?

raining,
SA


      
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