[DM]
> They are both events if that is all you are saying?
Yes, events that can happen at the same time.
Preferring one over the other, hmm, I don't think that
leads anywhere that revealing.
SA
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> From: "Heather Perella"
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism
>
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> >
> > [DM]
> >> I could not think of any extra way to explain.
> >> Try this. I need to write a sentence in an email.
> >> There are more POSSIBLE (emphasis on word)
> sentences
> >> then could
> >> be written between now and the end of time. I
> have
> >> access to a small
> >> part of this possible range, yet even this is
> vast
> >> and I will die before I
> >> could write all the sentences I am capable of.
> But I
> >> live and so I must
> >> choose.
> >> And these are the sentences I give you. From the
> >> possible (that is real and
> >> exists for me, how else do I access it) I decide
> >> which sentences to make
> >> actual. And here they are. Quite magical and a
> big
> >> responsibility when you
> >> come
> >> to think of it. The past puts us within reach of
> a
> >> certain range of the
> >> possible,
> >> but we can only actualise a small part of what is
> >> possible for us, so we
> >> have
> >> to choose. Such is life.It is a forsaking of much
> >> that is possible to
> >> actualise very
> >> little of it.
> >> Does that help?
> >
> >
> > DM, it's not the defining of random and choice
> > that I'm having difficulty with. I said in my
> first
> > response to this line of discussion that both are
> > dependently originated. I see randomness and
> choice
> > decisions occuring at the same time. Randomness
> and
> > preferences happening co-dependently. We can make
> > them distinct, and I mentioned that easily
> happens.
> > I'm pointing out how both can happen even in the
> same
> > event.
> > Wiktionary says random is as follows:
> >
> > "1- All outcomes being equally probable
> > 2- Unpredictable
> > 3- Having apparent lack of plan, cause or
> > reason"
> >
> >
> > There were other definitions, feel free to
> look
> > at them.
> >
> > Choice (same source):
> > "1- An option; a decision; an opportunity to
> choose
> > or select something.
> > 2- One selection or preference; that which is
> > chosen or decided; the outcome of a decision.
> > 3- Anything that can be choosen.
> > 4- (definite: the choice): The best or most
> > preferable part"
> >
> >
> > I don't like to split hairs, and I don't want
> to
> > make this an all of nothing definition. But at
> this
> > moment I see randomness as dynamic, and choice is
> the
> > valuing process amidst this unpredictable, lack of
> > reasoning events. We, as humans, may apply
> reason,
> > and make a choice. We may prefer something in
> this
> > randomness, and make a final decision and pick
> > something. Now, what would these applied
> together, in
> > unison, be called. The event process is one way
> of
> > looking at this. I don't see these (choice and
> > random) being separate events, but co-dependent in
> a
> > bigger event that includes the two.
> > So, what were you trying to get at?
> >
> > raining,
> > SA
> >
> >
> >
> >
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