Isn t it right to say that language is a manipulator of emotions, therfore of
action, therefore reality?  to have a speech, even if it s sub-understood,
coherent makes the assessment of reality more accurate.  Of course, I ve tried
it fo some time, it s impossible to sustain a voice clear, from the Tao of
Earth
in connection wi the Tao of Heaven, during a life-span.  i do have practical
needs that doesn t work well with that keeping-the-word-even if-subjectively
thing.  i mean, i think we do twist to reach the best assessment of 
reality and
translate it into words.

cheers,
captain Noel







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> Hi Bo,
>
> You said to DM:
>> ... do you agree with my analysis of the said passage
>> from LILA, that it (by many twists and turns) shows that SOM is
>> the intellectual level? All of it, every last bit?
>
>
> Similarly in Lila's Child you said, "A while back, we spoke about the
> emergence
> of intellect and I said that in a way Subject/Object Metaphysics
> could be seen as identical to the intellectual level of the MOQ!"
>
> As I'm sure you are aware, Pirsig responded to your equating the
> intellectual level with SOM in Lila's Child:
> "43. This seems too restrictive. It seems to exclude non-subject-
> object constructions such
> as symbolic logic, higher mathematics, and computer languages from
> the intellectual
> level and give them no home. Also the term “quality” as used in the
> MOQ would be
> excluded from the intellectual level. In fact, the MOQ, which gives
> intellectual meaning
> to the term quality, would also have to be excluded from the
> intellectual level.
> If we just say the intellect is the manipulation of language-derived
> symbols for
> experience these problems of excessive exclusion do not seem to occur."
>
> How do you respond to his critique?
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
>
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