[Marsha]
> I don't think you've understood my words.

     [SA currently]
     I don't know if you've understood my words.


     [Marsha]
> For example, I stated 
> clearly I love men!!!!  And I do!!!  I love their
> maleness!!!  Every 
> bit of it!!!  I could gush for hours on their
> beauty.  It's their 
> rationalizations, justifications, double standards
> and labeling I 
> find hard to swallow.   But this is me and my bone
> marrow speaking.
> I have investigated both Lila (Hindu) and Lillith
> (Hebrew) before and 
> found it interesting.  Will that response satisfy?


     [SA currently]
     I was wondering if anybody knew if Pirsig uses
Lila due to the west/east rift that the moq mends. 
Lila being beyond duality in both Hindu and Hebrew,
yet, in the Hebrew/western end of the rift female is
seen negatively, whereas the Hindu Lila still retains
the non-duality.  Seeing that the moq comes out of the
west, is Lila 'unearthed' for who she really is by
Pirsig?  Is not Lila in the book 'Lila' a
representation of non-duality?  When Pirsig said he
was trying to get to the root of SOM, he went way back
according to these links.  Back into the mythic to
unfold the overlaps of western interpretations of Lila
where it seems the Hindu version might have retained
the more original version of Lila without all the
overlapping western extreme of male rationalizations. 
So, maybe you don't know if Pirsig had a character
called Lila due to this historical thread, so I'm
wondering if anybody else knows?


gray,
SA





> >      [SA previously]
> > > >Marsha, do not fear, I'm fearful that you miss
> the
> > > >point of Lila!!!!
> > > >DO NOT FEAR!!!
> >
> >
> >      [Marsha]
> > > Before I attempt to respond to this post, I'd
> like
> > > to ask you what is
> > > it you think I fear?
> >
> >
> >
> >      Here is why I made this general statement to
> you.
> >  By do not fear, I mean do not be repulsed.  For
> one,
> >I quote you saying,
> >
> >      "This post has caused a volcanic tremor
> within
> >the
> >marrow of my bones."
> >
> >     Not sure what you mean by "volcanic tremor",
> but
> >is sounds shaky.  Secondly, here is another quote
> from
> >you,
> >
> >      "I recently suggested you read Besserman's 'A
> New
> >Zen for Women'.  You dismissed it for another day.
> >Why, probably because it is written by a woman
> about a
> >woman's experience?"
> >
> >      Your assumption shows a tainted view of me. 
> Your
> >assumption rooted in what has been known as this
> >dislike of maleness for some time, has you jump to
> >this clouded view.  But who doesn't have a clouded
> >view?    Thirdly, another quote from you,
> >
> >      "Again, I suggest you read this book."
> >
> >      Why do feel the need to suggest this book
> >"Again"?  I said I'm saving the name for future
> >reading.  Fourthly and lastly, I quote you,
> >
> >      "I just don't think we have any shared
> experience
> >which would make it meaningful."
> >
> >      Sure I'm not a female in the biological and
> >social sense, but why would this inhibit my
> feminine
> >intellect, the creative aspect of me.  And, since
> we
> >probably don't "have any shared experience", the
> >meaning of discussion as to what I find central to
> the
> >MOQ is right here in this one word - Lila!!!!! 
> I've
> >come across something last night that is very
> profound
> >and I thought maybe you could help me understand
> what
> >I found.
> >
> >
> >rain and wind,
> >SA
> >
> >
> > 
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