At 08:51 AM 1/11/2008, you wrote:

>      [Marsha]
> > Since you've ruled out silence, please define what
> > you mean by quiet,
> > the definition you expected from me.
>
>
>      SA:  I didn't expect silence to be your
>definition of quiet.  By quiet, I mean quiet.  For
>instance, 'on those quiet days I could hear the tap
>water dripping', or 'while all was quiet they raided
>the camp', or 'in the quiet of the night the cougar
>ambushed and killed the deer', or 'while it was quiet
>I heard the icicles fall', or 'while I was being quiet
>a deer walked right passed me and a cardinal sung a
>song'.  This quiet does necessitate that I'm able to
>notice these 'things' and I am to be quiet both mind
>and mouth to hear and come close to these 'things'.
>I'm talking about ordinary quiet that is not just
>sensed, but experienced in the mind.  Ordinary quiet
>where I may rest from noise or hear the Niagara Falls.
>  I don't know.  What other quiet is there?
>      By silence, I thought you meant 'trying to rid
>all noise' or 'emphasizing the silence and not
>noticing anything else but silence'.  Silence is the
>absence of music or anything for that matter.  For
>example, the field was silent today, meaning, no deer,
>birds, not even the wind stirred the leaves.  In the
>quiet field, the deer played, the birds sang, and the
>wind blew by occasionally.  In this quiet, all can be
>heard and experienced, as I perceive it.  In this
>quiet, the cars roared by and then they left to come
>back again tomorrow.  Quiet is flexible I admit.  For
>instance, to a city person town life is quiet, but to
>a farmer or somebody who lives in the woods (this is
>how we perceived this as I grew up in woods and farm
>land), a small town is not very quiet, but very busy,
>noisy, and active (a city is suffocating).  I see
>quiet similar to air.  It allows 'anything' to pass
>through it, be alive in it, and sound-off in it.
>Quiet is more a ground for much else, than the
>expression.
>      What did you think I meant by quiet?
>

SA,

I thought you were asking about the quiet as experienced by the 
silent witness.  I still think that's what your inquiry is about.  We 
just didn't meet in the use of language.

Marsha





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