At 10:21 AM 1/11/2008, you wrote:

>      [Marsha]
> > I thought you were asking about the quiet as
> > experienced by the
> > silent witness.  I still think that's what your
> > inquiry is about.  We
> > just didn't meet in the use of language.
>
>
>SA:  I think by this dialogue we are trying to
>understand what we both mean by quiet.  I use
>quietness a lot here, and I'm wondering if when I use
>this term to signify an experience, if people in this
>forum know what I mean.  Thank you for helping me see
>how this forum might be percieving this 'quietness'
>I'm talking about.
>      What is "silent witness"?  I never heard of this
>term.  Please explain.  Maybe this is what I'm talking
>about.

SA,

I'll try, but it's experience, not procedure.

When I was a very disciplined meditator, I came to a point where I 
could watch my own thoughts flowing and changing.  It was 
unbelievable!!!  They would meander here and there.  I wish I could 
explain why one thought would follow another, but I do not 
know.  Sometimes there'd seem to be a logic to it, but at other times 
the association seemed a mystery.  It didn't take long to realize 
that thinking is not some exalted faculty.  It can be useful, but not 
necessarily.

The original form of this meditation was not to become attached to 
the thoughts, just let them go.  It's to be a silent witness.  Now 
it's kind of a habit.  Not always, of course, but most of the 
time.  There's always a watching aspect.  I can be on the phone 
giving my mother advice to check into the side affects of a new 
prescription, and still there is the silent witness 
watching.  Sometimes there is only the silent witness.  This is the 
place of calm and quiet, where experience is clear. I think living 
alone has helped to strengthen this.

Marsha






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DEFINITION of  Marsha, I, me, self, & etc.:   Ever-changing 
collection of overlapping, interrelated, inorganic, biological, 
social and intellectual, static patterns of value.

     

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