Hello,

(After this quote, additional comments below)

     "The Lyceum Movement was a somewhat similar idea
that  preceded the Chautauquas...The Lyceum Movement
gained popularity and it was inextricably linked to
the Transcendentalists;  R.W. Emerson  (one of the
first professional lecturers) gave around 100 lectures
at Concord Lyceum and  H.D. Thoreau read his ´Civil
Disobedience´  publicly for the first time at the same
place in 1848." (many others lectured at these
Lyceums/Chautauquas, such as Mark Twain and Thomas
Edison, etc...)


http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/easyrider/data/zen_and_the_art_of_motorcycle_ma.htm

Additional comments below:


    [Marsha] 
> The lake is not frozen.  It gets a thin layer of
> ice, but then 
> melts.  Actually, last year it never froze. 
> Normally there are a 
> great number of people ice fishing, on the lake, but
> not last year 
> and so far not this year.  There has been a man out
> on the lake in a 
> beautiful, little red boat.  He's been out there
> when it's been below 
> freezing, and I saw him once chopping through a thin
> layer of 
> ice.  He was out there as recently as this past
> weekend.  He and his 
> red boat make a wonderful image.


   SA previously:  This is the dynamic.  I'm
convinced.  We
haven't parsed all of these components into 'analyzed
parts'.  This is the playing field of primary reality.


    SA:  To further elaborate by what I mean, I found
interesting quotes.  One from Henry Gurr (at the
Liverpool Conference) and another from Calvin Martin
(in a book he edited that I'm currently reading called
"The American Indian and the Problem of History")  
     From Martin who quotes Vizenor as follows:
     "...energies of the tribes that run like dreams
in a dance with the morning sun over wet meadows."


      How I see this, and the quote from Pirsigs' ZMM
will explain this clearly, is first, I'm pointing out
"dreams in a dance".  Dancing "with the morning sun
over wet meadows", dreams dancing with sun and
meadows.  After what I said above to Marsha, I read
this in Martins' book.  Marsha pointed out a dynamic
reality (what she pointed out is found above).  What
she said I find to be the, "playing field of primary
reality".  In other words, what she pointed out was
the (to use an analogy) "...morning sun over wet
meadows" where "dreams" "dance".  Then I was reading
some of the Liverpool Conference papers today, and I
was looking at the photos and reading the presentation
by Henry Gurr and I was skimming through his
presentation when I came across this and I quote as
follows: 

     "4) The mentally unstable Narrator says he
depends on "Good old reality". And he repeatedly says
(or implies) that he would "go off the deep-end",
except for the ever present support of the surrounding
...... and beautiful...... physical world. Thus he
must fully participate with (and report) his
surroundings.


     SA continues:  This is where Chautauquas are born
and live.  This is where woods are and in this quiet,
something happens.
     This forum is similar to the old chautauquas
roving across the country where lectures were given
and open to all, now, these lectures shout out from
these places as posts here. 


ordinary commentary.

woods,
SA   


      
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