Hi SA, as you say interesting link, and interesting points ... about "natural education".
I have that "easy rider" web site link on my own Pirsig Pages where Chautauqua's are referenced. BTW I'll let Henry know he's been quoted in dispatches ... he doesn't often read these mails. Ian On 1/17/08, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > (After this quote, additional comments below) > > "The Lyceum Movement was a somewhat similar idea > that preceded the Chautauquas...The Lyceum Movement > gained popularity and it was inextricably linked to > the Transcendentalists; R.W. Emerson (one of the > first professional lecturers) gave around 100 lectures > at Concord Lyceum and H.D. Thoreau read his ´Civil > Disobedience´ publicly for the first time at the same > place in 1848." (many others lectured at these > Lyceums/Chautauquas, such as Mark Twain and Thomas > Edison, etc...) > > > http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/easyrider/data/zen_and_the_art_of_motorcycle_ma.htm > > Additional comments below: > > > [Marsha] > > The lake is not frozen. It gets a thin layer of > > ice, but then > > melts. Actually, last year it never froze. > > Normally there are a > > great number of people ice fishing, on the lake, but > > not last year > > and so far not this year. There has been a man out > > on the lake in a > > beautiful, little red boat. He's been out there > > when it's been below > > freezing, and I saw him once chopping through a thin > > layer of > > ice. He was out there as recently as this past > > weekend. He and his > > red boat make a wonderful image. > > > SA previously: This is the dynamic. I'm > convinced. We > haven't parsed all of these components into 'analyzed > parts'. This is the playing field of primary reality. > > > SA: To further elaborate by what I mean, I found > interesting quotes. One from Henry Gurr (at the > Liverpool Conference) and another from Calvin Martin > (in a book he edited that I'm currently reading called > "The American Indian and the Problem of History") > From Martin who quotes Vizenor as follows: > "...energies of the tribes that run like dreams > in a dance with the morning sun over wet meadows." > > > How I see this, and the quote from Pirsigs' ZMM > will explain this clearly, is first, I'm pointing out > "dreams in a dance". Dancing "with the morning sun > over wet meadows", dreams dancing with sun and > meadows. After what I said above to Marsha, I read > this in Martins' book. Marsha pointed out a dynamic > reality (what she pointed out is found above). What > she said I find to be the, "playing field of primary > reality". In other words, what she pointed out was > the (to use an analogy) "...morning sun over wet > meadows" where "dreams" "dance". Then I was reading > some of the Liverpool Conference papers today, and I > was looking at the photos and reading the presentation > by Henry Gurr and I was skimming through his > presentation when I came across this and I quote as > follows: > > "4) The mentally unstable Narrator says he > depends on "Good old reality". And he repeatedly says > (or implies) that he would "go off the deep-end", > except for the ever present support of the surrounding > ...... and beautiful...... physical world. Thus he > must fully participate with (and report) his > surroundings. > > > SA continues: This is where Chautauquas are born > and live. This is where woods are and in this quiet, > something happens. > This forum is similar to the old chautauquas > roving across the country where lectures were given > and open to all, now, these lectures shout out from > these places as posts here. > > > ordinary commentary. > > woods, > SA > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
