Greetings, This man and his little red boat was out on the lake again on Sunday. It was 19 degrees. Brrrrrrrr. I was tempted to get out the binoculars to see if he was fishing or meditating, but that seemed too intrusive. He had to go through a thin layer of ice to leave and was having a tough time. I worried for him, but he made it.
Sorry to go on about this man, but I find him incredible. Brrrrrrrr. The lake still is far from frozen. Marsha At 10:58 AM 1/23/2008, you wrote: >Hey Ian, Marsha, and others, > > >Ian: > > Hi SA, as you say interesting link, and interesting > > points ... about "natural education". > > I have that "easy rider" web site link on my own > > Pirsig Pages where > > Chautauqua's are referenced. BTW I'll let Henry know > > he's been quoted > > in dispatches ... he doesn't often read these mails. > > >SA: The Lyceum Movements/the Chautauquas, as I'm >pigeon-holing these events, are intellectual emergents >amidst the "...the morning sun over wet meadows". The >intellect emerges amidst "There has been a man out on >the lake in a beautiful, little red boat. He's been >out there when it's been below freezing, and I saw him >once chopping through a thin layer of ice. He was out >there as recently as this past weekend. He and his >red boat make a wonderful image." (to quote Marsha). >The intellectual emergent is noticed as "...make a >wonderful image." One might see other intellectual >emergents in this quote, too. And from this >"wonderful image" of a "man out on the lake", the >"wonderful image" being intellectual, is a chautauqua >sprouting. As the lecturers of these Chautauquas in >the 19th century, would have intellectually lit-up hay >fields as the necessary patterns would have been >established to provide a foundation, a place to stand >when they talked, a place for the crowd to watch, >etc... and with these in place we find amidst the >lecturer intellectual patterns emerging. Fostered >amongst country sides and other venues. As Henry >mentioned about Pirsig, "Thus he must fully >participate with (and report) his surroundings." And >from these snowy woods, this chautauqua is reveal, >with a loud voice for these computers enhance quietly >given communications very far indeed. > > >thanks. > >birds, >SA > >P.S. I kept the post intact below to keep the >references for the quotes. > > > > > > > "The Lyceum Movement was a somewhat similar > > idea > > > that preceded the Chautauquas...The Lyceum > > Movement > > > gained popularity and it was inextricably linked > > to > > > the Transcendentalists; R.W. Emerson (one of the > > > first professional lecturers) gave around 100 > > lectures > > > at Concord Lyceum and H.D. Thoreau read his > > ´Civil > > > Disobedience´ publicly for the first time at the > > same > > > place in 1848." (many others lectured at these > > > Lyceums/Chautauquas, such as Mark Twain and Thomas > > > Edison, etc...) > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/easyrider/data/zen_and_the_art_of_motorcycle_ma.htm > > > > > > Additional comments below: > > > > > > > > > [Marsha] > > > > The lake is not frozen. It gets a thin layer of > > > > ice, but then > > > > melts. Actually, last year it never froze. > > > > Normally there are a > > > > great number of people ice fishing, on the lake, > > but > > > > not last year > > > > and so far not this year. There has been a man > > out > > > > on the lake in a > > > > beautiful, little red boat. He's been out there > > > > when it's been below > > > > freezing, and I saw him once chopping through a > > thin > > > > layer of > > > > ice. He was out there as recently as this past > > > > weekend. He and his > > > > red boat make a wonderful image. > > > > > > > > > SA previously: This is the dynamic. I'm > > > convinced. We > > > haven't parsed all of these components into > > 'analyzed > > > parts'. This is the playing field of primary > > reality. > > > > > > > > > SA: To further elaborate by what I mean, I > > found > > > interesting quotes. One from Henry Gurr (at the > > > Liverpool Conference) and another from Calvin > > Martin > > > (in a book he edited that I'm currently reading > > called > > > "The American Indian and the Problem of History") > > > From Martin who quotes Vizenor as follows: > > > "...energies of the tribes that run like > > dreams > > > in a dance with the morning sun over wet meadows." > > > > > > > > > How I see this, and the quote from Pirsigs' > > ZMM > > > will explain this clearly, is first, I'm pointing > > out > > > "dreams in a dance". Dancing "with the morning > > sun > > > over wet meadows", dreams dancing with sun and > > > meadows. After what I said above to Marsha, I > > read > > > this in Martins' book. Marsha pointed out a > > dynamic > > > reality (what she pointed out is found above). > > What > > > she said I find to be the, "playing field of > > primary > > > reality". In other words, what she pointed out > > was > > > the (to use an analogy) "...morning sun over wet > > > meadows" where "dreams" "dance". Then I was > > reading > > > some of the Liverpool Conference papers today, and > > I > > > was looking at the photos and reading the > > presentation > > > by Henry Gurr and I was skimming through his > > > presentation when I came across this and I quote > > as > > > follows: > > > > > > "4) The mentally unstable Narrator says he > > > depends on "Good old reality". And he repeatedly > > says > > > (or implies) that he would "go off the deep-end", > > > except for the ever present support of the > > surrounding > > > ...... and beautiful...... physical world. Thus he > > > must fully participate with (and report) his > > > surroundings. > > > > > > > > > SA continues: This is where Chautauquas are > > born > > > and live. This is where woods are and in this > > quiet, > > > something happens. > > > This forum is similar to the old chautauquas > > > roving across the country where lectures were > > given > > > and open to all, now, these lectures shout out > > from > > > these places as posts here. > > > > > > > > > ordinary commentary. > > > > > > woods, > > > SA > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Be a better friend, newshound, and >know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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