Hey Ian, Marsha, and others,
Ian: > Hi SA, as you say interesting link, and interesting > points ... about "natural education". > I have that "easy rider" web site link on my own > Pirsig Pages where > Chautauqua's are referenced. BTW I'll let Henry know > he's been quoted > in dispatches ... he doesn't often read these mails. SA: The Lyceum Movements/the Chautauquas, as I'm pigeon-holing these events, are intellectual emergents amidst the "...the morning sun over wet meadows". The intellect emerges amidst "There has been a man out on the lake in a beautiful, little red boat. He's been out there when it's been below freezing, and I saw him once chopping through a thin layer of ice. He was out there as recently as this past weekend. He and his red boat make a wonderful image." (to quote Marsha). The intellectual emergent is noticed as "...make a wonderful image." One might see other intellectual emergents in this quote, too. And from this "wonderful image" of a "man out on the lake", the "wonderful image" being intellectual, is a chautauqua sprouting. As the lecturers of these Chautauquas in the 19th century, would have intellectually lit-up hay fields as the necessary patterns would have been established to provide a foundation, a place to stand when they talked, a place for the crowd to watch, etc... and with these in place we find amidst the lecturer intellectual patterns emerging. Fostered amongst country sides and other venues. As Henry mentioned about Pirsig, "Thus he must fully participate with (and report) his surroundings." And from these snowy woods, this chautauqua is reveal, with a loud voice for these computers enhance quietly given communications very far indeed. thanks. birds, SA P.S. I kept the post intact below to keep the references for the quotes. > > "The Lyceum Movement was a somewhat similar > idea > > that preceded the Chautauquas...The Lyceum > Movement > > gained popularity and it was inextricably linked > to > > the Transcendentalists; R.W. Emerson (one of the > > first professional lecturers) gave around 100 > lectures > > at Concord Lyceum and H.D. Thoreau read his > ´Civil > > Disobedience´ publicly for the first time at the > same > > place in 1848." (many others lectured at these > > Lyceums/Chautauquas, such as Mark Twain and Thomas > > Edison, etc...) > > > > > > > http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/easyrider/data/zen_and_the_art_of_motorcycle_ma.htm > > > > Additional comments below: > > > > > > [Marsha] > > > The lake is not frozen. It gets a thin layer of > > > ice, but then > > > melts. Actually, last year it never froze. > > > Normally there are a > > > great number of people ice fishing, on the lake, > but > > > not last year > > > and so far not this year. There has been a man > out > > > on the lake in a > > > beautiful, little red boat. He's been out there > > > when it's been below > > > freezing, and I saw him once chopping through a > thin > > > layer of > > > ice. He was out there as recently as this past > > > weekend. He and his > > > red boat make a wonderful image. > > > > > > SA previously: This is the dynamic. I'm > > convinced. We > > haven't parsed all of these components into > 'analyzed > > parts'. This is the playing field of primary > reality. > > > > > > SA: To further elaborate by what I mean, I > found > > interesting quotes. One from Henry Gurr (at the > > Liverpool Conference) and another from Calvin > Martin > > (in a book he edited that I'm currently reading > called > > "The American Indian and the Problem of History") > > From Martin who quotes Vizenor as follows: > > "...energies of the tribes that run like > dreams > > in a dance with the morning sun over wet meadows." > > > > > > How I see this, and the quote from Pirsigs' > ZMM > > will explain this clearly, is first, I'm pointing > out > > "dreams in a dance". Dancing "with the morning > sun > > over wet meadows", dreams dancing with sun and > > meadows. After what I said above to Marsha, I > read > > this in Martins' book. Marsha pointed out a > dynamic > > reality (what she pointed out is found above). > What > > she said I find to be the, "playing field of > primary > > reality". In other words, what she pointed out > was > > the (to use an analogy) "...morning sun over wet > > meadows" where "dreams" "dance". Then I was > reading > > some of the Liverpool Conference papers today, and > I > > was looking at the photos and reading the > presentation > > by Henry Gurr and I was skimming through his > > presentation when I came across this and I quote > as > > follows: > > > > "4) The mentally unstable Narrator says he > > depends on "Good old reality". And he repeatedly > says > > (or implies) that he would "go off the deep-end", > > except for the ever present support of the > surrounding > > ...... and beautiful...... physical world. Thus he > > must fully participate with (and report) his > > surroundings. > > > > > > SA continues: This is where Chautauquas are > born > > and live. This is where woods are and in this > quiet, > > something happens. > > This forum is similar to the old chautauquas > > roving across the country where lectures were > given > > and open to all, now, these lectures shout out > from > > these places as posts here. > > > > > > ordinary commentary. > > > > woods, > > SA ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
