Hi Ian There's always a case for keeping the good bits. The first moment of secularism is about freedom, religious freedom and freedom from religious conflict, wars and persecution. And a turn away from dogma to experience and reason. All good things.
Thanks David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian glendinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [MD] The End of Faith > Hi DM, > > A lot of truth in that, but I would re-phrase ... > > GOF Secularism "has traditionally been" such a tool. > > Religion is a tool too .. for reminding us that even SOMism / > SOMist-Science can't (shouldn't / mustn't) ignore values. > > Enlightened secularism - eg MoQism - has learned the errors of those > GOF SOMist / Religious / Idolatrous / Scientific ways. > > Ian > PS for a definition of secularism - see the DMB post, agnosticism (an > interested, enlightened kind) is the new secularism. Athesism is so > passe - see Platt for details. > > On Jan 17, 2008 11:24 PM, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi MOQers >> >> Know something folks, secularism is a tool for keeping >> values out of intellectual institutions, and that means >> keeping the SOM going! Shame on us! >> >> Want the full story? read these: >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knowledge-Wisdom-Revolution-Science-Humanities/dp/0955224004/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200612240&sr=1-1 >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secular-Age-C-Taylor/dp/0674026764/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200612266&sr=1-1 >> >> Regards >> David M >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
