Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello everybody, Chris from Sweden here. > > This is my first time posting on this list, so bare with me if this repeats > old > points. I have, as I'm sure most of you have, been trying to explain the > exceptionality of MOQ to friends and , well, people in general really. And I > think > that we all have faced the same kinds of problems at one point or another, > that > being the problem of trying to get someone who is so deeply rooted in the SOM > to > be open to question their own view. It is not, I think strange that a lot of > people seem to have a very hard time of understanding the basic concept of > Quality > as it is in MOQ, and that I think is not because of incapacity to do so, but > rather because of fear. It stands natural that to change ones basic view of > the > world would appear to be a scary thing for a lot of people - even though many > here > I think would testify to the contrary - it naturally follows that one instead > clings to an old idea with the same zeal you would find in someone hanging > over a > cliff, grasping a rotten branch. > > There is a very big problem here. I think you all would agree that this view > that > we hold is one that it is of very high Quality to spread to people, and I in > turn > would go further to imply that it might be a kind of duty, in some sense, for > all > of us to try to do so. As I reed Lilas Child before, Bodvar wrote something > about > the ancient Platonists, those that fought to have their ideas of SOM > recognised, > and how the Lila Squad was quite like that. I think I would agree there, and > that > leads me on to my point; > > What I think would be a good thing to be done right now, in this very time, > for > the benefit of the MOQ, is to more trash the SOM. I don't mean this in any > kind of > hostile way - I personally no longer feel the anger towards it that I did > before > reading ZMM and Lila - but it seems to me to be one of the most practical > things > that can be done at this time. I say, assemble all of the platypi that can be > found, write it down, and have it ready. When someone asks "why MOQ" there is > the > obvious answer that since a metaphysics is no truth , only an interpretation, > and > a tool, it only makes sense to use the best tool there is, and why is MOQ > better > then SOM - here is the list! If we had such a list. It would just be easier. > > Well, thoughts? Is this at all worth talking about?
Hi Chris and welcome to the discussion. Yes, platypi are definitely worth listing to show the value of the MOQ. My list consists of paradoxes that SOM thinking creates. The first one on my list, directly attacking SOM, is the following: How come we are eternally separate from the world, but never apart from it? Not sure this is the sort of thing you had in mind, but perhaps it's a start. Regards, Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
