Hello Christoffer, I see that you are devoted to the philosophy of MoQ. It is surely beneficial if we change the way people see the world, by giving them a broader, deeper and richer framework of thinking, that not only draws the interest of philosophers but is also of pragmatic value. To compile a list such as the one you suggest needs a lot of planning. Firstly, you have to make three sections (metaphysics, epistemology and ethics) and then again in subdivisions, by referring to a hierarchical dictionary on philosophy, writing out the misconception and its correction as suggested by the MoQ. Secondly, the question of who exactly is qualified to edit this list needs to be resolved (or perhaps the articles in the list will need to be classified as authentic or inductive). Thirdly, who is to undertake the responsibility of the entire project? I don't think Pirsig alone would more than validate and initiate the entire procedure.
On a perhaps unrelated note, I do remember Pirsig saying that the MoQ is not "written down in stone" (in his paper titled "Subjects, Objects, Data and Values", I think) and of course, Phaedrus' famous line, that of the pencil being mightier than the pen. Hence, if we let our motivation for such an endeavour be that of removing misconceptions and enriching paradigms, then we can succeed, instead of if we set on a propoganda to show how the MoQ is valid (you never suggested any such thing; mentioned for its own sake). I hope Pirsig would descend to our plane of discussion to participate in such an endeavour. Akshay On 22/01/2008, Christoffer Ivarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everybody, Chris from Sweden here. > > This is my first time posting on this list, so bare with me if this > repeats old points. I have, as I'm sure most of you have, been trying to > explain the exceptionality of MOQ to friends and , well, people in general > really. And I think that we all have faced the same kinds of problems at one > point or another, that being the problem of trying to get someone who is so > deeply rooted in the SOM to be open to question their own view. It is not, I > think strange that a lot of people seem to have a very hard time of > understanding the basic concept of Quality as it is in MOQ, and that I think > is not because of incapacity to do so, but rather because of fear. It stands > natural that to change ones basic view of the world would appear to be a > scary thing for a lot of people - even though many here I think would > testify to the contrary - it naturally follows that one instead clings to an > old idea with the same zeal you would find in someone hanging over a cliff, > grasping a rotten branch. > > There is a very big problem here. I think you all would agree that this > view that we hold is one that it is of very high Quality to spread to > people, and I in turn would go further to imply that it might be a kind of > duty, in some sense, for all of us to try to do so. As I reed Lilas Child > before, Bodvar wrote something about the ancient Platonists, those that > fought to have their ideas of SOM recognised, and how the Lila Squad was > quite like that. I think I would agree there, and that leads me on to my > point; > > What I think would be a good thing to be done right now, in this very > time, for the benefit of the MOQ, is to more trash the SOM. I don't mean > this in any kind of hostile way - I personally no longer feel the anger > towards it that I did before reading ZMM and Lila - but it seems to me to be > one of the most practical things that can be done at this time. I say, > assemble all of the platypi that can be found, write it down, and have it > ready. When someone asks "why MOQ" there is the obvious answer that since a > metaphysics is no truth , only an interpretation, and a tool, it only makes > sense to use the best tool there is, and why is MOQ better then SOM - here > is the list! If we had such a list. It would just be easier. > > Well, thoughts? Is this at all worth talking about? > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
