Ron, Marsha, Steve, DMB, Arlo, Gav, et al ...

Re Marsha's "screw reason".

Two points ...
One, "reason" is indeed the problem ... remember the Church of Reason
... and I already mentioned Harris acknowledges that rationality /
reason is a whole 'nother specturm of issues, once you've swept blind
(intolerant / ignorant) faith out of the way.

Two, Ron's word "intolerance", or the opposite "tolerance", is
precisley the thought that was behind my "good faith" post. For the
moment let me just throw a few other words into that pot (Need to read
Arlo's post in that thread).

"Tolerance", "Good Faith", "Grace", so far ... try these ...
"Trust", "Fairness" (remember Pirsig dwelt on this), .... Love, tough
love even, but love nevertheless ...

We have some dots to join up.
Ian

On 1/31/08, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Steve,
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> Screw reason, I am an atheist!!!
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> Marsha
> DEFINITION of  Marsha, I, me, self, myself, & etc.:   Ever-changing
> collection of overlapping, interrelated, inorganic, biological,
> social and intellectual, static patterns of value. AND ATHEIST!
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> PERFECT screw reason. Nice.  Steve, how the hell do we expect to change
> Religious peoples views if we can't even get atheists to appeal to
> reason?
> Marsha makes my point quite eloquently, it's not religion it's
> intolerance.
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