On Wednesday, January 30, 2008, at 01:26AM, "MarshaV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Does god exist as a spov?  Yes.
>
>Religious traditions using extensive definition, doctrine and dogma 
>state god (spov) is equivalent to DQ.
>
>I reject the existence of that god.
>
>I am an atheist.

Sam Harris:
"Why should we fall into this trap [of labelling oursleves atheists]? Why 
should we stand obediently in the space provided, in the space carved out by 
the conceptual scheme of theistic religion? It?s as though, before the debate 
even begins, our opponents draw the chalk-outline of a dead man on the 
sidewalk, and we just walk up and lie down in it.

Instead of doing this, consider what would happen if we simply used words like 
?reason? and ?evidence.? What is the argument against reason? It?s true that a 
few people will bite the bullet here and argue that reason is itself a problem, 
that the Enlightenment was a failed project, etc. But the truth is that there 
are very few people, even among religious fundamentalists, who will happily 
admit to being enemies of reason."



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