Hi myself Is mysticism a non-talk approach to religion that correctly avoids talking about god-reality in SQ terms/language?
David M --- Original Message ----- From: "David M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality > Hi Ron > > Is lots of god-talk better seen as various attempt to talk > about DQ using notions/concepts designed to talk about > SQ? This is why they always seem to miss the point? > > David M > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality > > >> Marsha, >> This is where I have trouble calling myself anything. I've wrestled with >> This for awhile, I can't say I do not believe in god, because I do >> Believe in the spov of god as DQ, that's how the great spirit was >> Explained to me, plus I've always kinda felt this in my bones >>>From a kid on up. The connectedness we share with all. >> So I can't really say I don't believe in that. >> When asked, usually I say I believe in god, >> Just not the god everybody else believes in. >> I have a relationship with the universe whether I choose >> To acknowledge it or not, I endeavor to move in harmony with it. >> >> Labeling myself just goes against my grain. I'm not an atheist >> Nor a theist yet I agree with portions of both philosophies. >> >> I'm me, with my own beliefs, this has usually caused a fuss >>>From both camps. >> >> I would never say my way is best or the true or the only way. >> I do however, encourage people to think for themselves and >> Develop their own beliefs in these matters. >> That much I agree with Harris. >> >> If I'm against anything it's absolutism. Taking hard stances >> Against broad general concepts like: religion is evil >> Or atheists are immoral. It demonstrates a total lack >> Of understanding. >> >> >> -Ron >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MarshaV >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:25 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality >> >> >> Does god exist as a spov? Yes. >> >> Religious traditions using extensive definition, doctrine and dogma >> state god (spov) is equivalent to DQ. >> >> I reject the existence of that god. >> >> I am an atheist. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************* >> DEFINITION of Marsha, I, me, self, myself, & etc.: Ever-changing >> collection of overlapping, interrelated, inorganic, biological, >> social and intellectual, static patterns of value. >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
