Hello Jorge
I found your latest post in the MOQ Levels question very clarifying and rewarding. The question presented here is a very interesting one: > Within the context of the MOQ the 4th level "could > be lurking under the 3rd", if it were to distance > itself from the assumption that the levels are > "discrete, not continuous". If the levels were thought > as fuzzy (in the sense of fuzzy sets), so that some > patterns could be jointly social to some extent and > intellectual to some extent, then Ivarsson's argument > concerning the Sumerian cultures (and many other > common-sense-ones) would be a valid one. I'm not yet sure that this is my position, but I'm leaning in that direction at the moment. But in the since that a MOQ Level can only be called a "Level" once it manifests itself clearly, then I would understand Pirsigs (and Bodvars) argument that it would not be right to talk about a intellectual level before the Greeks. But on the other hand, after the SOM had emerged in ancient Greece there was a pretty clear regression of the intellectual level and a big forward for the social level that lasted until the enlightenment. During the time between the intellectual level were around, I think we would all agree with this, but it was fighting hard to free itself from an advancing, strong social level. As I see it. If this is a valid way of seeing it, could not this have been the case earlier than the Greeks? Well, this was all a bit fuzzy in itself I realize, but I'm sure you or Bodvar (or anyone else here) have something to say about it Thanks for the time Chris Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
