Ham

I will respond to this for now:
> You say "patterns are static, by their very nature, " and you cite 
> Marriage
> is an understandable example of a social value.  But how do we define
> processes leading to
> or away from it, such as courtship, romance, marital rifts, filing for
> divorce, etc., all of which are events occurring over time rather than
> static states of matrimony.  Would you say that any of these stages are
> "static patterns".  Would at least one or to be "dynamic patterns"?   I
> think I've demonstrated the semantic problem.

Well, no, patterns are never in themselves Dynamic, but they respond to 
Dynamic Stimuli (A Quality Event?) The different rituals you mentioned are 
in fact social static patterns, however, preferably a certain Dynamic 
Quality should be present - one can simply go thought with the procedures 
lined out as social patterns of value, but if there is no Dynamic Quality to 
it. well, one might think it wouldn't feel all that good.  So, those things 
described are all static. In fact: everything you can ever describe is 
static, since you cannot descripe or capture Dynamic Quality  - if you do: 
it is immediately Static.

> But now I see that you've convinced Ron that patterns ARE dynamic!
>
> [Ron]:
>> But to be exact, yes you are quite right as I understand it.
>> So I guess we can answer the thread title by saying
>> theoretically a pattern is never static.
>
> The MoQ is a theory, is it not?  Then, theoretically 
> speaking--logically--a
> pattern must either be dynamic or static.  Well, which is it to be,
> gentlemen?

As I said, the patterns are static, but responds to Quality (if they are to 
survive that is) So, then we see them they are static, although from a MOQ 
perspective we can understand that they respond to something we call Dynamic 
Quality - that we do so is of course a static description in itself, but not 
so much as other words/descriptions.


Hope I could give some input worth wile here.

Regards

Chris
 

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