Jorge, Ron, Marsha et al, Time and Energy.

I think this equating DQ to Energy is another kind of chauvinism.

Like, as we peel back the levels of physics we find things that look
more fundamental - at one level we might see the vacuum as alive with
energy and conclude that material particles (dynamic stuff) are just
patterns in this energetic activity and point at Einstein's
equivalence (E=Mc2) to back up the thought.

I go one level further and say that energy potential is just any
significant differences / changes in that vacuum - quantum information
I might say - all energy and matter comes from these information
patterns. But I'd still be choosing a comfortable perspective - my
preferred metaphor. Very similar view to Ron's though.

Interestingly, I too like Dennett's "time chauvinism" - thought I'd
forgotten it until Marsha reminded us. Joining up some dots again,
finding alternate time perspectives is what this link is about. (I
posted it in the time stopping thread.)
http://www.steventaylor.talktalk.net/time.htm

Ian

On 2/20/08, Jorge Goldfarb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jorge:   I am inclined  to say that Energy is not at
> all much like DQ. Energy, as opposed to DQ, can be
> precisely formulated in terms of  mathematical
> equations.
>
> Ron:(from Wiki)
> "In physics and other sciences, energy (from the Greek
> ???????, energos, "active, working")[1] is a scalar
> physical quantity that is a property of objects and
> systems which is conserved by nature.
> Quantity is a kind of which exists as magnitude or
> multitude. It is
>  among the basic classes of things along with QUALITY,
> substance, change, and relation."
>
> Ron:
> So it's safe to say quantity is a quality.
>
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