> Ron:
> That's just the conundrum; we have nothing to check
> against.  What is reality less our view of it? How
do we know
> how Close it is?

SA:  What will check against "our view of it" is the
pragmatism.  When a rock hits me, that's nature
interjecting.  When culture's clash, that's
nature/social patterns interjecting from the outside
in.  When I learn from a teacher, that's
intellectual/nature interjecting.  At the same time,
I'm participating with the rock and analogizing what
happened in the rock hitting me (why, well, the
experience of a rock hitting me, and how I would
percieve the experience is different from a rock
hitting another rock thus a human does still
anthropomorphize the event - it is going both ways.) 
Also, when culture's clash and a student learning from
a teacher, the anthropomorphizing is happening by the
people involved, whether as an individual in the
culture being clashed or an outside culture watching
and feeling any impacts of the culture clash.  Same
with a student analogizing what the teacher has said
to fit the students current knowledge inclinations and
pursuits.  I see this event as going both ways.  I
will build a house, and the hill in which I want to
build the house will have input on where and how the
house will be built, to simplify as an example.  What
do you think?

    Ron:
> I tend to err on the side of human-centricity
> Because it frees DQ from any anthropomorphism. Thus
> free of any Definition or description except what we
place on
> it.  This to me strikes more precisely to the main
event.

SA:  AAh, I see your point, and this is an excellent
point.  I really didn't get until now.  So, you "err
on the side of human..." due to "any definition or
description" of dq is human and thus, it is free of
definition unless "we place" definition upon it?  Is
this what your saying?
       I've been coming at dq of inorganic patterns
from another angle.  This angle is inorganic static
patterns are not intellectual patterns and thus, they
are inorganic spov's without intellectual spov
interference.  Thus, without any intellectual spov
interference inorganic spov's remain with an element
of innocence or dq were an inorganic spov remains
undefined.  How are the inorganic spov's without
intellectual spov's to know they are spov's still?  I
see this happening due to the naturopomorphic aspect
in this event, "combination", or "connection".  What
do you think?

     Ron: 
> Thanks for elevating this dialog several notches
> with your un-wavering Patience.


SA:  I want to thank you.  I think what we are doing
here in these two threads is exploring and outlining
how we approach each post and thread on this forum, do
you?

SA


      
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