> [Krimel] > Isn't desire the root of all evil for Buddhists? Is Dwai saying in > effect the 'all that is' is evil? Or that good is evil? Is this one of > those koanic paradoxes or should I go kill my dog?
[Dwai] Tao is not good, it is not bad, it is beyond all duality. To quote from the Ishavasya Upanishad, Completeness is that, completeness is this, from completeness, completeness comes forth. Completeness from completeness taken away, completeness to completeness added, completeness alone remains. Peace, peace, peace! [Krimel] It is correct that that The Way is neither good not bad but that virtue is found in harmony and balance. Nothing is always this or always that. It is though clinging to definition that folly arises. My comments were directed at your statement: "Indeed, what the Taoist believes is that whatever is, is the Tao, so it cannot possibly be undesirable. Even the most seemingly ghastly thing is that way. Good and Bad are simply values we assign to things..." I took to double negative to mean that the Tao IS desirable. In Buddhism desire is to be avoided as it is root of suffering. [Dwai to Ham] Indeed, Tao, Brahman is beyond all qualification. It simply is. [Krimel] While Taoism was used by Zen Buddhists as a kind of metaphysical underpinning it has no connection whatever to Hinduism. You seem to be churning all this eastern philosophy through a mystical blender grinding out Sutra Smoothies. Hinduism strikes me as plagued with a host of gods and demigods; principles personified. Frankly when it comes to personified principles, Yahweh tops my list. Here is a God who says flat out, "My ways are not your ways and my thoughts are not your thoughts". He says, "I create good and evil" He fucks with us for reasons of his own and says we are impertinent to ask, "Why?" He builds his house in heaven because if he built it on earth his neighbors would break his windows. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
