Chris On 13 March you wrote: > Anthony, Arlo, Bodvar > Anthony wrote: > > On this point (as well many others!) I'd tend to agree with Arlo > > though I'm always >interested in what Bodvar has got to say,
Chris: > What about this: Isn't the different patterns supposed to be in > conflict? I mean, each pattern have different ways of "responding" to > quality, and as has been stated many many times "regard each other as > immoral" how can this definition work if we say that the intellectual > level is to look upon symbols as separate entities? The way I see it, > that isn't in conflict with anything. I mean, one can clearly see how > full fledged rationality may be in conflict with Social Patterns of > Value, but "the ability to manipulate symbols"? What is that in > conflict with? I can only say "amen", the level struggle (moral codes) is is one of the MOQ tenets most pregnant with the SOL interpretation. What threat can the social level see in the "manipulation of symbols" or vice versa what control of the social level is it in it for intellect? And how does the intellectual patterns that LILA lists emerge from the symbol manipulation (which is a definition of language anyway) .... and why didn't Pirsig spot these "anomalies"? Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
