Sunshine rippling across the water, cat's paws. SA,
At 03:15 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: >SA: Is your family heritage interesting? Not the >details of your family heritage, but do members of >your family wonder about your family tree? (not the >human family tree for all of the earth, but your >father, mother, grandparents, etc...) I cannot decipher this question. Who or what are you asking about? Most people have an interesting story. Don't you think? >Marsha: > > ZMM was not my first inkling of this understanding. > > I think I was > > born with a kind of unknowing. Reading Krishnamurti > > was the first > > exposure to verbalizing it. But such reading just > > left me free > > floating. ZMM became a beginning structure to > > explore it. It was > > such a relief! It is such a beautiful book. > >SA: Star Wars was probably my first wondering of >something more and capable of being experienced >first-hand - you know, the force and such. Also, when >I listened to my father talk up until I was about 19- >20 years old or so, he always seemed to talk in such a >way that was ancient and very worldly. I remember my >brother, sister, and I sitting together at the table >talking with my father and we all said to him, (and we >were probably between 11-15 years old) "Why do we have >to go to school when we can learn from you?" We meant >it. Some days later (he must have been thinking about >it), he said to me we need to go to school to learn >how to read and write to understand if somebody would >happen to come to our house with a piece of paper >wanting us to read it and sign it, and the paper had >to do with the house and property. He said 'things' >in such ways that were simple, but yet lasting, and >deep. The answer wasn't something like well you have >to, or how are you going to get a job. The answer was >very practical and one could see the reasoning was >thoughtful and not full of sh*t. How did it happen that you read ZMM? >Marsha: > > I am looking for a source of images of India, both > > modern and ancient, to use in my next painting. >Maybe someday > > a visit. Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma... > >SA: Maybe try images from the Gupta period of India. >I think I'm going to research this era myself due to >this quote from Campbell: > > "Indeed, there was no match for Egyptian art >anywhere in the world >until the Classic period of Greece; and after that the >Gupta period of India, c. 400 A.D., whence the magic >passed with Mahayana Buddhism to China and Japan." I spent 2 days in Athens. I might have walked where Socrates once did his thing (harangue prominent citizens). I was thrilled! I spent a day in the Archeological Museum. I wept! I have heard it stated that India, because it is democratic, will become a major influence in the world. More than China, which is still under tight control. And more than the MiddleEast which has so many scared. What is the new rich class doing with its money? What do they value? I'm very curious. What influence might they have on us if they become a major player? I want to see what this looks like visually. I stopped at a Indian grocery store, and the woman working there gave me two different small papers with many photos. But I really want to see upscale fashion magazines which can contain a lot of information about what is happening right now. Also hopes and dreams. There's more research to do. >SA continues: You know, after putting this quote here >I notice, see the Mahayana Buddhism, it comes up >again. Also, Pirsig may have talked about Greece and >the rise of a certain intellect, but it would seem >this Greek intellect also corresponds with art - >creativity, this is significant. Is the Tibetan Buddhism Mahayana? > Also, I was thinking quite a bit today about your >comment on experience and how one experiencing an >experience can become very deep and desirable. This >comment by you was triggered while I was at work and >an employee said the following (note: the retail store >I work at uses red as it's color): "I love this >place, I'm so into this place. I love it so much I >bleed red." I do work at a very catchie, in-tune type >of retail store, for retail stores that is. I'm not >going to say the name of the store, don't need to >advertise for it. Yet, when this employee said this, >to her boss, very seriously, and yelling it while she >was walking away, something clicked in me. If we can >involve ourselves in a certain experience, and get >through any hitches, traps, and stuckness', then no >holds bar we will become what we desire. As much as >we may try not to become hitched and tied to a post of >a certain experience, something static does latch. We >put our lives into something and out comes our lives. A while back someone on this forum talked about making their life into their work of art. If we all only understood we are artists. Some understand this and actively participate. Some do not. And oh if you understand, you do have to tangle with all those gumption traps. But really, do you have something better to do? >SA: I wish them the best, too. Notice how Buddhism >is taking its' hits in that region. In Afghanistan by >the Taliban (the cliff Buddhas blown up by them, >etc...), I wonder if any Buddhist monks are in >Afghanistan now. And Pakistan? India is still a safe >haven. Myanmar buddhists are under fire. Tibetan >buddhists. Chinese buddhists. Thailand Buddhists see >something on the horizon of their experience and it >looks dangerous due to the impact of the Myanmar >dictator rumblings into the surrounding countries. >China and India haven't had strong relations for some >time, and with the rumors of Buddhists and others >planning a march from India to Tibet the Chinese have >amassed more soldiers on the India border. It is dangerous, and very interesting. And very hopeful too. Good things can come from adversity. >greetings, >SA Marsha Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
