SA/Marsha, I did not know Russia was in talks to recognize the Republic of Lakotah. The "freedom" crowd is unsurprisingly quiet on this topic. I posed this question under the Freedom topic (only SA responded), but here is another angle, repsonding to SA's comments about "borders" demarking the ROL land. When the nation of Israel was created, the US had no issue with deposing people who for generations lived on a certain tract of land to make way for the "original" inhabitants. What would be the difference between forcing some Montana farmers to move off their land (or become part of the ROL) and forcing Palestinian farmers off their land and into exile to make way for Jewish settlers?
I've looked over LILA to see if anything Pirsig wrote can shine light on this, specifically. There is one passage in particular. "The North could have permitted the slave states to become independent and saved hundreds of thousands of lives. But an evolutionary morality argues that the North was right in pursuing that war because a nation is a higher form of evolution than a human body, and the principle of human equality is an even higher form than a nation." (LILA) Here we see Pirsig affirming the denial of secession rights to the South based on the idea that had the South been left to secede it would have pursued a path of slavery. This refusal to grant autonomy was rooted, therefore, in the understandings of what that nation would do to the intellectual principle of human equality. Since this in no way applies to the ROL, and indeed conversely supports the idea that granting freedom to these people trumps the value of holding the nation together, I would say the MOQ favors the rights of a people to secede and seek self-determination. And I think this applies to both Tibet and Kosovo. By the way, here's a link for a young Lakotah woman singing a traditional Lakotah lullaby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxH0b7cFgj8). She does some goofy stuff in some of her other vids (she is a teenager, after all), but this video is striking because it is so "modern" (a teen in front of a webcam, making a youtube video) and so ancient as well (not only the lullaby, but the human soul evident in her mannerisms and plea). Arlo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
