Arlo:
> I did not know Russia was in talks to recognize the
> Republic of Lakotah.
SA: "It is rumored..." I want to clarify what the
ROL website is declaring. The steps that outline this
might be happening, or at least Russia knows about
ROL, is Russian news stations have discussed ROL's
recent move, which nothing in the U.S. yet. I tried
to find on the internet where the "It is rumored..."
comes from, which doesn't provide much credence if
left at that. But the Russian News and Italian News
can be found via links within ROL, yet, I don't speak
either language, but those that do, as one is in the
ROL forum and is from Russia has interpreted the
Russian broadcast, and somebody in the ROL forum has
interpreted the Italian broadcast. I'm still
searching the internet, but I'm having problems with
my computer. It's software jumpstarts have no more
memory after I downloaded updates to my computer. I
need an updated Mac software or more hardware memory.
I'm callin' the local MacOutfitters today to find out
what I need to do. Hopefully the computer doesn't try
to boot me off while I'm replying to this post of
yours Arlo.
Arlo:
> The "freedom" crowd is unsurprisingly quiet
> on this topic.
SA: "unsurprisingly", yeaper.
Arlo:
> I posed this question under the Freedom topic (only
SA
> responded), but
> here is another angle, repsonding to SA's comments
> about "borders"
> demarking the ROL land. When the nation of Israel
> was created, the US
> had no issue with deposing people who for
> generations lived on a
> certain tract of land to make way for the "original"
> inhabitants.
> What would be the difference between forcing some
> Montana farmers to
> move off their land (or become part of the ROL) and
> forcing Palestinian farmers off their land and into
exile to
> make way for Jewish settlers?
SA: As we both have noted previously, which is
becoming more clear for me, the U.S. will support
freedom in U.S. interest alone, not freedom that seems
to counter-U.S. culture... "counter-culture" - the
Underground... can we say cultural immune system.
Arlo:
> I've looked over LILA to see if anything Pirsig
> wrote can shine light
> on this, specifically. There is one passage in
> particular. "The North
> could have permitted the slave states to become
> independent and saved
> hundreds of thousands of lives. But an evolutionary
> morality argues
> that the North was right in pursuing that war
> because a nation is a
> higher form of evolution than a human body, and the
> principle of
> human equality is an even higher form than a
> nation." (LILA)
> Here we see Pirsig affirming the denial of secession
> rights to the
> South based on the idea that had the South been left
> to secede it
> would have pursued a path of slavery. This refusal
> to grant autonomy
> was rooted, therefore, in the understandings of what
> that nation
> would do to the intellectual principle of human
> equality. Since this
> in no way applies to the ROL, and indeed conversely
> supports the idea
> that granting freedom to these people trumps the
> value of holding the
> nation together, I would say the MOQ favors the
> rights of a people to
> secede and seek self-determination.
SA: Especially after every treaty with them has been
not followed through with, and the crushing blow of
oppression upon the Lakotah puts the average lifespan
of males at around 44 years - this is awful. The
Lakotah are trying to not just abstractly live out
their life freely from the U.S., they are trying to
gain control of their very lives. What the BIA and
U.S. gov't does, as well as the Lakotah paper chiefs,
is implement policies upon policies to 'fix' a people
that didn't need a fixin'... I'm referring to cultural
egotism. It's the old idea and debate that the
Chinese, Japanese, Africans, and/or Amerindians can't
do science or aren't technology privy to understand it
due to their culture is backwards or something.
woods,
SA
P.S. I'm going to check out the link when I can,
Lakotah lullaby, but currently I can't play youtube
video's. Too much for my computer to handle. I've
got to call the place now and find out what to do.
The computer booted me off once already while writing
this response to you, but luckily I saved a draft part
way through. Gotta go.
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