Platt you're at it again - with your rhetorical tricks - I even
predicted your initial response may have been a flattery trap.

Nowhere did I suggest in the slightest that social lubrication was a
waste of breath.
On the contrary I said it was 99% of the value in any conversation.
(Yes 99% - go read.)

The waste of breath was to simply add the caveat "I could be wrong" to
every other statement in the conversation (that's a given between
trustworty participants, who don't expect to have to defend their
words being twisted in each subsequent response).

Conversations rely on trust not rhetorical trickery.
(Winning arguments however do rely on rhetorical trickery.)
I fell for it again.
Happy ?
Ian

On 4/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > But, I would not accept your conclusion though. The caveat /
> > contingency "I could be wrong" is a given in absolutely every human
> > statement (even this one) - once you're actually having a conversation
> > - it is (almost) a waste of breath to keep saying it. I'd say what
> > really matters is the basis on which you believe what you do believe -
> > it's a given that all belief is contingent. "I could be wrong" is not
> > a result or an outcome, but a premise. I prefer a forward looking
> > "conversation" from where it has got to, not from where it started.
> > (Yes, I am that Irishman).
>
> A lot of "social lubrication" is just a waste of breath if you look at it
> logically, like "Nice to see you," and " Have a nice day." I don't think we
> need to say "I could be wrong" after every assertion. But, in the interests
> of keeping the conversation going, if wouldn't hurt to say it once in awhile, 
> like
> maybe once in every dozen or so posts. (Having said that I feel like my 
> mother-in-
> law who would say from time to time, "It wouldn't hurt to call once in 
> awhile.")
> But, I get your point.
>
> Regards,
> Platt
>
>
>
>
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