Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Platt you're at it again - with your rhetorical tricks - I even
> predicted your initial response may have been a flattery trap.
> 
> Nowhere did I suggest in the slightest that social lubrication was a
> waste of breath.
> On the contrary I said it was 99% of the value in any conversation.
> (Yes 99% - go read.)

I don't see 99% anywhere below. Where is it? You simply said it was a "given"
in every conversation and I simply said it doesn't hurt to say it once in
awhile. You seem to look for ways to accuse me of trickery. Why I don't know.

> The waste of breath was to simply add the caveat "I could be wrong" to
> every other statement in the conversation (that's a given between
> trustworty participants, who don't expect to have to defend their
> words being twisted in each subsequent response).

I don't think it has anything to do with words being twisted. It's simply
an acknowledgment of one's own fallibility.  

> Conversations rely on trust not rhetorical trickery.
> (Winning arguments however do rely on rhetorical trickery.)
> I fell for it again.
> Happy ?

If you want to keep finding ways to fall, I'm happy because it seems to make
you happy.

Platt

> 
> On 4/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > But, I would not accept your conclusion though. The caveat /
> > > contingency "I could be wrong" is a given in absolutely every human
> > > statement (even this one) - once you're actually having a conversation
> > > - it is (almost) a waste of breath to keep saying it. I'd say what
> > > really matters is the basis on which you believe what you do believe -
> > > it's a given that all belief is contingent. "I could be wrong" is not
> > > a result or an outcome, but a premise. I prefer a forward looking
> > > "conversation" from where it has got to, not from where it started.
> > > (Yes, I am that Irishman).
> >
> > A lot of "social lubrication" is just a waste of breath if you look at it
> > logically, like "Nice to see you," and " Have a nice day." I don't think we
> > need to say "I could be wrong" after every assertion. But, in the interests
> > of keeping the conversation going, if wouldn't hurt to say it once in 
> > awhile,
> like
> > maybe once in every dozen or so posts. (Having said that I feel like my
> mother-in-
> > law who would say from time to time, "It wouldn't hurt to call once in
> awhile.")
> > But, I get your point.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Platt
> >
> >
> >
> >
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