[Krimel] Ok, let me be a little clearer. I am not disparaging these practices. Obviously you and many others find benefit it them. I don't. I have practices that suit me. But in this sense I don't disparage speaking in tongues or handling snakes or jogging. Others find value in them as well.
Ron: That's the problem Krim, if I may call you Krim. [Krimel] As long as you understand that is sounds like crime and does not rhyme with trim. Ron: Even better Ron: The mystical subversion Is in the abstract syntax of the noun class. Plus, dude, the whole vein Of this game is validating mystical experience. [Krimel] Says who? Ron: Says me, If you allow me to present my reasons, I think I have at least the problem highlighted. Ron: Mystics cultivate an Attitude towards meeting quality. How is this mumbo jumbo hocus pocus? Having yourself oriented in wholeness, mind , body and spirit as one In meeting whatever DQ throws at us is sound, practical and useful as well as evolutionarily Moral. The fact that you put martial arts and yoga on par with epileptic seizures [Krimel] I didn't mention epileptic seizures but since you did there are those who have frontal lobe seizures who become profoundly convinced of the reality of their religious experience. The Apostle Paul was likely such a one. Ron: Well, I'm not arguing that as much as you placing the practical development of mind and body in a class with runners high or religious hallucinations. Here's another analogy for it that may shed some of the preconceptions About it. Is it more practical and efficient for a car to perform out of Tune, off timing, fouled plugs, bald tires or that same car finely tuned And maintained. You can expect to receive increased gas mileage, performance And reliability, nothing spiritual about that. [Krimel] Awesome Dude, as I said it sounds like it is really good for you, so what? There are lots of ways to get your shit straight but that doesn't mean they offer the inside track to the higher power. If I take what you are saying here seriously what can I say to the person who says God gave them a prayer language or that their experience of the divine protects them from vipers or that God listens to their prayers and gets them great parking places at the Mall during the Christmas rush? Ron: Take it easy Krimel, I just thought you would interested in how it functions, I'm not shoving anything down your throat just asking you to take a closer look before passing such a hasty judgment of it. Don't go all Platt on me Buddy. Ron: Dude, if you were closer I'd show you what I mean, its Pragmatic as hell. Cash value out the ass. [Krimel] Well in the not so distant past if you were closer I still had a chance of out running you. These days I am push over for a three month old in more ways than one. My ass is about cashed in. Ron: There, and you went Platt. Geeze, I meant I'd demonstrate why I feel It is a successful Pragmatic method. It is very difficult to describe How body mechanics and deliberate applied force yield maximum efficiency Mentally and physically. When we're not struggling with objective reality as much, it leaves you free to fry bigger fish. ...You old geezer. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
