Ron:
We see how we conceive Quality is abstractly via adjective or verb. So
it
Is an abstract noun which is descriptive in action. A noun is
generally perceived as subject or an object. What we end up with
conceptually
Is a sense of objective intangibility like the noun "Art".
This is my whole point, that the formation of a noun automatically
forces the first split in conception which is, in our culture,
abstract/concrete.
There are some nouns that strattle both meanings like Quality and Art.
[Krimel]
Maybe the reason I think all of the talk about SOM is so senseless is
that the grammatically terms subject and object have nothing to do
with how I understand Subjects and Objects.
Ron:
It is difficult to say since we are raised from birth to use names
For objects in subjective forms or objective forms. Chair and happiness
Are both nouns, we understand them differently by those terms by how
they
Are used in sentence structures.
[Krimel]
I just don't see the subject/object problem as a grammatical one. For
me it is the mind/matter problem or the inner versus outer world
problem. Grammatically, 'car runs over dog' is not the philosophical
problem that 'karma runs over dogma' is but neither is a subject
object problem. Car is the subject, dog is the object. What's the big
deal?
Ron:
That's because you are looking at it from the inside out, language
And intellectual thought have a symbiotic relationship. Once experience
Is parsed up into language it must follow grammatical rules of meaning.
The car(concrete noun) running over the dog(concrete noun) destroyed my
Happiness(abstract noun). We understand that both types of nouns
function
Differently intuitively.
Ron:
Words and experiences that defy this type of classification are
Thrown out as meaningless.
Nouns like Quality, Art, GoD, are all grammatical platypus
SOM views them as meaningless bunk.
[Krimel]
How so?
Ron:
The same way you dismiss mysticism.
If it is not measurable it is subjective and has no place within
A body of intellectual thought.
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