[Ham] "It's necessary for somebody to look at it. In the absence of observers, our universe is dead."
[Arlo] So the universe did not exist before "man"? I take it you would say that "man" appears "fully formed", like Adam, suddenly and without ontogenesis. The moment the eyes of "Adam" opened, the rest of the universe suddenly pops into existence? Also, here you try to consider a "group solipsism", but it doesn't hold. By this logic, its not necessary for "somebody" to look at it, its necessary for ME to look at it. What evidence do you have, for example, that the universe will continue after YOUR death? By saying that a Koala bear in deep Australia suddenly exists because a bushwacker on walkabout spots it makes no sense. How does it exist any more "real" for you then than it did before it was spotted? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
