[Ham]
If it doesn't exist for us, it doesn't exist --period, end of discussion.

[Arlo]
Solipsism.Thanks. By the way, sometime you'll have to differentiate 
for me (if you do) the difference between:

If it doesn't exist for US, it doesn't exist --period, end of discussion.

and

If it doesn't exist for ME, it doesn't exist --period, end of discussion.

[Arlo previously]
It wasn't very "dead" for those "earlier primates", was it?

[Ham]
You drive me up the wall, Arlo.

[Arlo]
I am sure I do. Again, the "universe" was not very "dead" for those 
early primates, was it? And yet, lo and behold, no "man" to observe 
things. And yet those early primates must surely have "existed", even 
though you and I and no "man" was around to "experience them".



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