> Ron:
> Yes sir, what I was trying to stress was how
> languages treat nouns.
SA: Thank you Ron for explaining this to me. That's
what I was looking for when I addressed this to Arlo.
I was beginning to wonder if this thought was dying
out or what.
If a chair, a noun, can be abstract and
concrete, what does this mean?
I would say happiness,
though more abstract than concrete, is still concrete
in how we may express happiness or find happiness is
the clear intent or not, for instance, a smile or
frown, concrete traits of happiness, or war, more
anger than happiness. I like your explanations Ron,
and I'm beginning to agree with you for I can't find
reason not to. I'm curious about the question I offer
and the comment. How would you put these into your
line of thinking?
Ron:
It's all about expressing meaning accurately within
A contextual logical understanding. Language is structured
Around the description of nouns.
Nouns from wiki:
In linguistics, a noun or noun substantive is a lexical category which is
defined in terms of how its members combine with other kinds of expressions.
Since different languages have different inventories of kinds of expressions,
the definition of noun will differ from language to language. In English, nouns
may be defined as those words which can co-occur with definite articles and
attributive adjectives, and function as the head of a noun phrase. The noun can
be replaced by a pronoun of first person, second person, or even third person.
Also the noun is known for being one of the eight parts of speech.
(note how the originators of word classes were also the originators
Of philosophic thought)-R
The word comes from the Latin nomen meaning "name". Word classes like nouns
were first described by the Sanskrit grammarian Pāṇini and ancient Greeks like
Dionysios Thrax; and were defined in terms of their morphological properties.
For example, in Ancient Greek, nouns inflect for grammatical case, such as
dative or accusative. Verbs, on the other hand, inflect for tenses, such as
past, present or future, while nouns do not. Aristotle also had a notion of
onomata (nouns) and rhemata (verbs) which, however, does not exactly correspond
with modern notions of nouns and verbs.[citation needed] Nouns are words that
describe person, place, thing, animal or abstract idea.[1]
Concrete nouns refer to physical bodies which you use at least one of your
senses to observe. For instance, "chair", "apple", or "Janet". Abstract nouns
on the other hand refer to abstract objects, that is ideas or concepts, such as
"justice" or "hate". While this distinction is sometimes useful, the boundary
between the two of them is not always clear; consider, for example, the noun
"art". In English, many abstract nouns are formed by adding noun-forming
suffixes ("-ness", "-ity", "-tion") to adjectives or verbs. Examples are
"happiness", "circulation" and "serenity".
("Quality")-Ron
Ultimately SA, as Pirsig suggests, they are all terms for understanding
experience.
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