Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Platt,
> 
> Quality is an axiomatic "truth" in MoQism. Something that is axiomatic
> to a metaphysics - is probably about as close to fundamental as one
> can get - but they cannot be in any sense absolutely fundamental -
> outside of the choice of metaphysics and the ontological axes within
> it.

Ian,

Now I ask you. Is what you say above an axiomatic truth, a fundamental truth,
a relative truth, or just your opinion?

> You have to take the word of any philosopher (or yahoo) with at
> least a grain of salt, even though some are better than others.

Or, is what you say above to be taken with a grain of salt?

> (Use a capital T if you want - I'm just asking you why ?)

To express a truth for all people for all time. 

> Quality is a "level" only in the sense that it is the undifferentiated
> continuum that is divided to create all the other levels and processes
> - the medium that is more fundamental than any levels. In MoQish terms
> that is "more fundamental" than quanta - you don't have to use the
> word level if you don't want to.

OK. I won't. To use "level" for something "undifferentiated" would be a logical
contradiction. 

> I just asking for your definition of fundamental - and if that is
> behind your decision to use the capital T ?

That which can never change. 

Platt



> 
> On 5/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Hi Platt, I would suggest you've not "explained" even once, simply
> > > repeated examples, but no matter.
> > >
> > > In response to your question
> > >  is "They are just the current know limits" a fundamental Truth?
> > >
> > > I wouldn't say so, but as I said if you don't explain either
> > > "fundamental" or the "T" that disagreement counts for nothing.
> >
> > Is "I wouldn't say so" a fundamental Truth? Are there any fundamental
> > Truths in your world? Or do we take everything you say with a grain of salt?
> >
> > > Something more fundamental than Quantum Level ? - Doh ! try Quality ?
> >
> > Quality is a level? Duh!
> >
> > Is Quality a fundamental Truth?
> >
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