Sorry for this second post, but I thought an additional question might
clarify.
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From: "Marsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiment 1.
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From: "Ham Priday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiment 1.
[Marsha]:
Show me an autonomous self. What exactly is it?
All creatures are living "beings", in the sense that their existence is
dependent on a biological organism relating to a physical environment. A
cognizant being has some measure of sensibility, so that it may be
regarded as a "being-aware".
Human beings are distinguished from other creatures in that we are free
to act on the basis of our innate intelligence and prioritized values,
rather than simply driven by biological instinct. This autonomy affords
man the ability to structure his world, establish the morality of his
culture, and direct the course of history. None of this happens
"automatically", nor is it the affect of something called DQ pulling the
strings to make us behave in a prescribed way. It's achieved by
individuals making decisions based on those values held to be most
beneficial to the collective society.
Freedom is meaningless if it is not autonomous, and the universe is
designed to ensure that autonomy. For sure, we are all "influenced" by
the laws of nature and subject to external conditions beyond our control.
And we all bear the responsibility for our free choices and actions. But
because value-sensibility is the subjective essence of human experience,
man is uniquely created to be the choice-maker of his world.
J.F. Baxter has expressed man's role in the universe far more eloquently
in 'The Human Paradigm':
"Man is earth's Choicemaker. The sublime and significant act of choosing
is, itself, the Archimedean fulcrum upon which man levers and redirects
the forces of cause and effect to an elected level of quality and
diversity. Further, it orients him toward a natural environmental
opportunity, freedom, and bestows earth's title, The Choicemaker, on his
singular and plural brow."
I hope this helps to separate out the autonomy of the psychic self from
the natural order of experiential beingness.
Best regards,
Ham
Greetings Ham,
I asked you for a definition an autonomous self? Your answered with a
number of static patterns of value, analogies. I think you prove my point
that self is a collection of interrelated, ever-changing, static patterns
of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual values, and not
autonomous at all.
Please tell me? What exactly is an autonomous self?
How is an autonomous self more than thoughts in you mind?
Marsha
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