hiya all, marsha: > > Remember I am not saying that a self does not exist. I am > saying that an > autonomous (independent) self does not exist. > > An autonomous self would not have any dependencies, not > even experience. > Therefore, your autonomous self does not exist. Does an > experience > spontaneously erupt?
another analogy is language. evry word depends upon every other word for its meaning. think about it. break down or define every word you use and pretty soon you are covering thousands of words. every word is dependent on the others for its meaning. likewise a separate autonomous self is an impossible fiction; every 'self' depends on others for its feeling of selfhood. you don't exist outside of the culture you are in - you can't!!! when it comes to thought it is impossible to think without a culture of course. language again. the analogy becomes exact. the closer you get to the *heart of the self* the closer you get to the one consciousness that is the basis of all sentience and awareness. rendering the idea of autonomy meaningless (how can you be autonomous if you are all? how can u not be?) > > Marsha > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
