Anthony: Mark,
I’m sorry to read things haven’t improved with your attitude since I last heard from you over eighteen months ago. I don’t think the personal things you have said here are appropriate for a philosophy discussion group or particularly very Zen. Hi Anthony, What personal things are you referring to? You have said personal things in moq.org posts, so i assume this applies to yourself as well? No? Anthony: I initially put your hostility over Christmas 2006 down to a reaction from your mother’s death but (underneath all the false accusations of plagiarism, lack of integrity etc.), s: Would you like to meet up and continue this discussion in person? Any time is fine by me - we only live a short distance from each other. I think you need to be told a few things, and Horse doesn't want this on the moq.org Anthony: I now realise it largely stems from you not being invited along the September 2006 MOQ film trip across America. s: See below, Re. Money. Anthony: The fundamental and simple reason for that is that you had no experience making films. s: From The Observer, Sunday November 19, 2006: Tim Adams: Have you ever retraced the journey? Robert Pirsig: Not all the way through, but we have travelled those roads. The BBC did a trip there recently. A woman called Karen Whiteside wanted to do some films about the book. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1952011,00.html#article_continue s: Oh dear. Anthony: However, David Buchanan, Gavin Gee-Clough and Rebecca Temmer did while still having a good grasp of the MOQ. s: Oh deary me. Anthony: It’s unfortunate that such decisions can often “tread on toes” but I wasn't being in the business here with being nice but rather document the surviving people and places associated with the original 1968 ZMM road trip as best as possible with a relatively limited equipment and budget. s: Along with the BBC then, and their 'limited equipment and budget'? Robert Pirsig: The BBC did a trip there recently. Anthony: Considering all the time, energy and opportunities that you were given by me over many years, it’s a pity that you’re still acting like a spoilt brat about this one issue over eighteen months later. s: I don't know what you mean by, time, energy and opportunity Anthony? I try to think for myself, and you are a bloke from the North of England who is obsessed with Robert Pirsig. The two are not compatible. Re. America trip: The thing that made me feel i had been shit on was your incredible paranoia and secrecy. I think this is a function of your obsession, because Robert Pirsig is a recluse, and you are an obsessed man with access to a recluse. But i understand that is the way you are, and my initial irksome feeling was almost immediately replaced by a perception of you as a sad man with no inherent talents apart from your obsession. I run like hell from that. The only thing i know i am obsessed with is music, from 2nd century Ambrosian chant to Steely Dan. I draw a line at the 'Cheeky girls' though. Anthony: However, I do hope you understand one day (when you’ve “hung up the ego” maybe?) that your exclusion from this part of the film project was down to pragmatic reasons rather than anything personal. s: I understand pragmatism here to mean you use people for their instrumental value in the pursuit of your obsession. I don't have any money, and as you were scouting for money on the run up to your trip, i was of no instrumental value to you. You got wind of this when i told you the following story: The Liverpool 2005 conference was centred around your graduation. My BA graduation was the very same week. After the conference, i took a trip to Scotland as part of a little reward for myself, and stumbled upon and played a guitar i immediately found to be a dream come true. I left the musical instrument shop in Glasgow (www.guitarguitar.co.uk) physically shaking with excitement. That was June 2005, but i didn't have the money to buy it until November 2005. (That money was borrowed, and i am only just on the verge of paying it all back in summer 2008.) This coincided with the beginning of my Masters degree as a mature student, and as such all my dosh was going into University of Liverpool fees. If the only thing i had of instrumental value for you was cash, then i had no instrumental value for you in the pursute of your obsession. Anthony: In the meantime, congratulations on achieving the MA. Anthony s: That's quite another story. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
