Hi Anthony, This is the sort of thing you do not appear to have any compunction descending to. Using my mother like this is below the belt, even for you. My family didn't enjoy reading the first instance:
Thirdly, David Boyce spent many hours practising reading out the paper and Mark Maxwell drove sixty miles on a round trip to David's house to deliver some last minute changes that Richard Loggins requested on the Sunday evening before the Conference week. Mark is presently driving his mother to and from hospital three times a week so he could certainly do without any unnecessary driving. (27th August 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 1. I did not drive 60 miles on a round trip to David's house as you well know. But facts don't prevent you from lying: On the morning in question i drove from my home to Manchester airport to pick up Stephanie Omste arriving from California US. Steph can be seen on Ian Glendenning's psybertron web site in images taken on the African Queen. We then drove home to my house, and later left to meet David Boyce at the Everyman theatre in Liverpool some 14 miles away. That would be a round trip of 28 miles measured this moment using Google Earth. After spending a most enjoyable hour or two with David, Steph and i visited the Anglican Cathedral (a short walk away) before returning home. On a later occasion i suggested to Wendy Pirsig that she may like to consider a similar visit because of the architectural quality of the building. The week after the conference Steph and i visited David at his home for lunch with other friends of David's, and we enjoyed discussing how shite we thought Glenn's paper was. David entertained us with the story of how he was driven crazy trying to make his delivery of the paper something like acceptable, but he persevered because he trusted your intellectual judgement in the matter. 2. As a matter of fact I was not driving my mother to and from hospital three times a week. Never have done. I was driving her to Halton General Hospital once a week as an out patient for replacement bandaging on a leg ulcer; the distance from her front door to HGH being one mile measured using Google Earth. If i could not do it, she used subsidised taxis supplied for the purpose. You did not ask my permission to mention this matter or consider its inappropriateness. My family and i found the context bit off. As Glenn remarked: Lastly, it is a little sad to think that Anthony should bring up the condition of Mark’s mother as a way of soliciting bitterness towards me in front of the MD, but of course I never knew, and I hope she is doing better. Glenn Bradford 28/08/2005 In this regard i found Glenn's behaviour more considerate and humane than yours Anthony. He seemed to be labouring under an impression that my mother was seriosuly ill or something? I don't know where he may have got that notion from, but i could take a guess. But never mind, no one was terribly hurt by your shenanigans. However, the following is more than a bit off: Mark, I’m sorry to read things haven’t improved with your attitude since I last heard from you over eighteen months ago. I don’t think the personal things you have said here are appropriate for a philosophy discussion group or particularly very Zen. squonk: I shall return to this if i don't begin experiencing 'technical difficulties' which prevent me from responding. Anthony: I initially put your hostility over Christmas 2006 down to a reaction from your mother’s death... squonk: The only contact i've had with you since you personally informed David Boyce and i of the fact that Glenn's paper was a fake has been a single telephone conversation a little while later. Apart from this and any moq.org exchanges, that's it. I did not informed you of my mothers death. I don't have any contact with you. Some time after my mother died I informed two individuals who attended the moq conference, so i feel pretty sure i understand who may have passed on the news unless i mentioned it on moq.org? But i have no recollection of doing so. If anyone would be so kind as to remind me if they remember reading a comment regarding this matter then i would appreciate it. Thanks. If either of the two individuals did pass on the news, would they please explain why they felt it necessary to do so? Thanks. One of these individuals remarked that i sounded positive considering the circumstances. I explained that i felt fortunate for so many things, or something like that, because it is so. You may know that i come from a very large family Anthony? As such, we have a good support network and help each other through difficult times such as the loss of our dear mother. I know i am fortunate in this regard, because i have known many people who have had to struggle alone through these things, and others who haven't had a stable and loving family to lose in the first place. So, i suppose it may be tough luck on my part that someone like you can try to use love to undermine and discredit me in some sense? But it can't work for a reason completely unconnected with the death of my mother: it doesn't matter how a fact is stated; if it is so then that's that. squonk Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
