Mark, I’m sorry to read things haven’t improved with your attitude since I last heard from you over eighteen months ago. I don’t think the personal things you have said here are appropriate for a philosophy discussion group or particularly very Zen.
I initially put your hostility over Christmas 2006 down to a reaction from your mother’s death but (underneath all the false accusations of plagiarism, lack of integrity etc.), I now realise it largely stems from you not being invited along the September 2006 MOQ film trip across America. The fundamental and simple reason for that is that you had no experience making films. However, David Buchanan, Gavin Gee-Clough and Rebecca Temmer did while still having a good grasp of the MOQ. It’s unfortunate that such decisions can often “tread on toes” but I wasn’t being in the business here with being nice but rather document the surviving people and places associated with the original 1968 ZMM road trip as best as possible with a relatively limited equipment and budget. Considering all the time, energy and opportunities that you were given by me over many years, it’s a pity that you’re still acting like a spoilt brat about this one issue over eighteen months later. However, I do hope you understand one day (when you’ve “hung up the ego” maybe?) that your exclusion from this part of the film project was down to pragmatic reasons rather than anything personal. In the meantime, congratulations on achieving the MA. Anthony ========================= Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2008 20:00:34 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dmb said: By analogy, I've said there are seven continents and you've construed that to mean that I deny the existence of nations. Saying the four levels display an increasingly dynamic function is not to say there aren't increasingly dynamic functions within the levels. Mark Maxwell stated: Hi David, Again, this is very lame. What has been, has been. When ever i advanced a spectrum of dynamic patterns you responded that the hierarchy of four levels do the job. Period. No further comment. End of. Final. You never asked the germane question: 'What more than four levels and Dynamic functions do you want?' That would have been on the money. dmb: Okay, now I see what the grudge is all about. Look, I'm sorry your Liverpool address didn't make it into the movie. But it wasn't my choice and in all fairness you can hardly blame Anthony for leaving it out. If memory serves, nobody understood it. You can try to trash me, the movie, the conference and Ant if that makes you feel better but maybe you should also think about why nobody understood what you were saying. And what would you do if it were your movie and had to decide whether or not to include such a speech? I don't blame you for being disappointed. Who wouldn't be? But its not an anti-Squonk conspiracy, just a reasonable choice for a movie about quality. Mark: I don't have a grudge regarding being left out of the dvd. I knew as soon as i revealed Anthony's plagiarism that that would most likely happen. I've been told what happens when Anthony becomes upset, and it ain't a pretty sight from the accounts i've heard. It's not what one may describe as the reaction associated with a Buddhist for example. Not that i regard Anthony to be a Buddhist. I don't know what he is. I understand this may be hard for you understand, but i don't give a damn about being in or out of the dvd. I could not care less. I don't have a home movie of my graduation, and i didn't even attend my MA graduation. I don't have an image of me wearing my cap and gown from either occasion: Not interested. You will understand that nobody is an absolute, as in, nobody lives to be 10,000 years old. If nobody understood the thing, why did Anthony comment that i had advanced the moq in a small way? So, at least one person seems to have not only understood it, but read it in advance of my presenting it and approved it. I don't remember Anthony saying, 'Well, i haven't got a clue what you are on about, but hell! Let's go with it. I bunged it into my PhD after all!' Doesn't really add up does it David? The advancing the moq comment was conveyed to me by Anthony himself when he came to visit one day as i manned the Institute of Popular music vinyl library at the University of Liverpool. That's good enough for me, not because Anthony said it, but because i know he doesn't say things like that without getting a nod from Pirsig first. Not on the occasion of informing me he wants it in his PhD thesis. Get me drift comrade? Like, you're onto that are you mate? Yeah you are. That's not bad at all. It made it into his PhD thesis and Pirsig proof read it and all the rest of it. For all i know Pirsig made the comments himself? I don't know. I don't need a dvd of me sweating and nervous banging on about it. ----cut---- _________________________________________________________________ The John Lewis Clearance - save up to 50% with FREE delivery http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719806/direct/01/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
