> [Platt to Gav]
> Your "new mode of existence" sounds suspiciously like the Hippie
commune  mode
> of the 60's. No need to repeat Pirsig's explanation of why it failed.
> 
> [Arlo]
> What part of what Gav said was "mistaking biological for Dynamic
Quality"?
> That's why Pirsig said the hippie movement, a MORAL movement, failed
> ultimately. But apart from that confusion (biological with Dynamic) it
was the
> moral direction we should have gone. Now... what part of what Gav said
repeats
> that mistake?

[Platt]
I assume you've read Gav's paean to Pantheism, the philosophy rooted in
the 
glories of the biological level. Seems that's where Gav finds DQ in 
abundance.  If I'm wrong, I look forward to Gav correcting me. 

Ron:
Does not RMP point to pre-intellectual experience as being the most
moral? doesn't Pirsig put dynamic experience before social-intellectual
patterns? I think you might be confusing what Pirsig said about static
moral
patterns with dynamic moral patterns. Pirsig states that static moral
patterns are essential for intellectual development but he also states
that
dynamic experience comes before these static patterns.


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