Hi David, Yes, so then what is your definition of a vice?
Peace, Steve On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve > > Is not getting stuck and addicted not falling away from DQ and > into SQ without DQ? Does this not dull desire and remove > the true satisfactions of DQ? > > DM > > >> [David M]: >> Does not desire cause us to change because it leaves us not the same? >> >> [Steve]: >> A desire can become a vice if we allow it to consume us, constantly >> occupying our minds, trying to satisfy it though never reaching a >> final state of satisfaction, allowing it to become an addiction. >> >> An addict with a particular desire I would say stays the same over >> time, or at least his state of mind stays the same. >> >> Desire itself is not bad, only in excess is it bad. I suppose i >> should have said lust is "excessive desire" instead of just "desire". >> >> Peace, >> Steve >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> Another thought. Is sex a vice? What makes it so? >>>>>> What makes something vicious? Is it when we lose >>>>>> control? When order is overcome or missing? >>>>>> Is vice and viciousness all a matter or vicissitude? >>>>>> Of, in other words dynamic change? Such are our >>>>>> inherited and perhaps questionable values. >>>>>> Vice,vicissitude, vicious -all same word origin apparently. >>>>> >>>>> sex is a biological pattern of high value. it becomes a vice when it >>>>> transgresses higher value patterns >>>>>> >>>>>> David M >>>>>> >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. >>>>> www.yahoo7.com.au >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
