Gav,

With the exception of your answer to (1) which doesn't quite ring true
as a definitive statement, I'd say your one-liner responses to (2),
(3) & (4) are spot on.

(3) and (4) in particular have got me thinking - a useful perspective.
Thanks
Ian

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, gav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > 1.       How does your definition or understanding of
>> intellectual
>> > level/value differentiate the social level from the
>> intellectual level as
>> > well as social values from intellectual values?
>> Please provide examples of
>> > both intellectual and social values and share how your
>> definitions of each
>> > level are able to clearly discern the levels.
>
>
> social values serve society; intellectual values serve the individual.
>
>
>> 2.       Given there is a evolutionary process to each of
>> the levels, what
>> > is a possible historical point in which represents the
>> likelihood for the
>> > birth of the Intellectual level, and what is the basis
>> for this
>> > period/event(s) chosen and how intellectual level
>> changed or remained the
>> > same over time.
>
> the origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind.
> roughly 2500 years ago (the time when lao-tse, buddha, heraclitus, zoroaster 
> all burst on to the scene). it is what produced classical greece - our parent 
> culture.
>
>
>> > 3.       It seems clear that both social and
>> intellectual levels use
>> > language, but in different ways.  Please describe how
>> each level utilizes
>> > language to sustain its level?
>
> society favours absolute definitions - ideological language; intellectual 
> level favours poetry - contextual meaning, existential truth.
>
>
>
>> > 4.       Given that intellectual values dominate
>> it's parent level, the
>> > social level, yet must sustain and maintain a relative
>> harmony with the
>> > social level.  Given your definition or understanding
>> of intellectual
>> > levels
>> > how do intellectual values do that?
>
> [i have already explained all these in my previous post....]
> the individual chooses which social patterns support them - this is moral. 
> social patterns choosing intellectual patterns is immoral.
>
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