Arlo, Ron, Phew, I shouldn't have worried the irony might be lost. Like the "original Hispanics" were the usual imperial imposition (which rhymes nicely with Spanish inquisition I find) on top of the good old Amerindians.
The irony of US assimilation of cultures - right from its inception, to date - just makes Ham's position ever weirder. I don't think you have any chance of anyone coming up with a good answer to your original question, hence my ironic flippancy. More beer, more inappropriate thoughts I find. Bring on the beer. Ian On 7/21/08, Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Ian] > Cortez, Cortez, what a killer ! > > [Arlo] > Si, amigo.The funny thing is that opening sentence to the Preamble of the > American Declaration of Independence is an homage to multiculturalism, as > Pirsig points out in LILA. > > "And yet, although Jefferson called this doctrine of social equality > "self-evident," it is not at all self-evident. Scientific evidence and the > social evidence of history indicate the opposite is self-evident. There is > no "self-evidence" in European history that all men are created equal. > There's no nation in Europe that doesn't trace its history to a time when it > was "self-evident" that all men are created unequal. Jean Jacques Rousseau, > who is sometimes given credit for this doctrine, certainly didn't get it > from the history of Europe or Asia or Africa. He got it from the impact of > the New World upon Europe and from contemplation of one particular kind of > individual who lived in the New World, the person he called the "Noble > Savage. The idea that "all men are created equal" is a gift to the world > from the American Indian. Europeans who settled here only transmitted it as > a doctrine that they sometimes followed and sometimes did not." (LILA) > > Viva Multiculturalism! > > Now I am going to go squeeze a lime into my Dos Equis Amber and wait for > someone to tell me how my "individual liberty" is threatened or the collapse > of America is imminent as "our population becomes more Hispanic", and for > the time being at least have one or two more slightly inappropriate thoughts > about Salma Hayek. > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
