[Platt]
multiculturalism -- the doctrine that no culture is better than any
other, past or present, especially American culture.
[Arlo]
And that's what has your balls all in a bunch, isn't it? It's not
that "no culture is better" per se, its the "especially American
culture". Its not just enough to proclaim a culture as "superior", it
has to be that we proclaim American culture as superior. It's not
enough to just criticize others, we have to stroke our dicks about
how above criticism Glorious America is. Well... to be honest we are
allowed to criticize "those evil commie libs" because they ain't
really 'merican at all, they're the product of Unholy Marxism and
Imperial Russia. Jesus, if we ain't singing the Star Spangled Banner
as we denounce the inferior lesser cultures of the world, well they
doggone it we are "multiculturalists" who are destroying God's Great
Nation. The more of this crap I read, the more I understand why the
rest of the world thinks bad about Americans. Oh, but what the hell,
we are better than everyone else, so who gives a damn what they
think. "They hate us for our freedom", after all.
[Arlo previously]
Not "endowed by the Creator" but emergent from culture. Not from God, from us.
[Platt]
Yes, precisely the view of a collectivist. Thanks for confirming your position.
[Arlo]
As I pointed out with Pirsig's words, the view of the MOQ, and most
certainly this is my position. But thanks for that "ooo.... the big
evil collectivist" plug. Why should anyone expect anything more?
"All men are created equal" is an intellectual pattern of value.
"Mental patterns do not originate out of inorganic nature. They
originate out of society" (LILA). ""Our intellectual description of
nature is always culturally derived." (LILA)
In this case, this particular intellectual emerged from the
multicultural union between Amerindians and Europeans. It was born
from the contemplation of the social way of life of the American
Indian, a reflective, meta-cogntive abstraction where the
social-symbolic life of the Indian became an object-of-inquiry in and
of itself. It was not "handed down by God", but built through the
negotiated dialogue of agenic individuals contemplating abstract
forms of socially-mediated symbolic life.
By the way, still no answers as to why I should fear the Hispanic
hordes gathering over the hills. Should I assume my fantasy life with
Salma Hayek is one I can have without guilt? Or do I need to ask her
to forgo her evil "Hispanic" ways and assimilate the glories that are
American culture? I'd hate to do this, quite frankly there are other
things I'd like to ask her to do in my fantasies... but I want to
make sure my embracing her Hispanicness will not cause the downfall
of civilization.
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