[Joe]
As far as I know you I admire you very much and I am sorry if I seemed
confrontational with ³I disagree!²  I feel at an early loss  agreeing to
disagree. IMO we have a different view of the ³existence² of undefined
quality?  Is ³existence² a necessary term in discussing ³quality² and in
that discussion is ³existence² undefined?  I say yes that there are
undefined levels in ³existence² which differentiates ³undefined² quality at
the individual level.  Though defined measurements at the molecular level
may not distinguish undefined differences still ³undefined² is a proper way
to describe capabilities in a description of levels, e.g. social or
intellectual.
 
[Krimel]
The feeling of admiration is mutual and I often think you and I do no so
much disagree as that we see things very very differently. I tend to see
things in terms of the interaction of DQ and SQ. The results are
probabilistic. The more static something is the more well defined its
probabilities are, the more certainty is there, the more lawful the
relationship. The more dynamic something is the less well defined are its
probabilities the more uncertain are its outcomes. 

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