Hello Stephen, pleased to meet you if we haven't spoken earlier. I'm from the original Lila Squad times and am reeling from more than ten years of fighting for the MOQ, yet seeing it deteriorating every day and is why I just had a fleeting glance ate the Catholic page you referred to on 27 July: it's about as far from the MOQ's social LEVEL as possible.
> I thought it would be interesting to take a look at how one group of > people (Catholics) look at social level values. Is there any parallel > to social values we usually discuss? What are the overarching > intellectual values/ideals driving these social teachings? The real Q-social level's purpose was (still is) a dynamic revolt against biological value of merely eating and proliferating, thus social value was/is about checking this "jungle" existence and what fulfills this purpose is a greater reality that transcends biological life. Thus the proclaimed catholic human rights is about the least Q-social value there is, they are all about the individual's submission to the greater reality (religion most often, but can be called "the common cause"). However, because intellectual value is the same revolt regarding social value one of its its value aspects turns round human worth and rights ... and THIS is what has reformed the original "raw" social patterns to the present mellow "teachings" . The catholics may believe that the individual's preservation is their agenda, but the Semitic type religion are Q-social patterns and everything turns round existence beyond, their least concern is Q-intellectual welfare. I won't pull the whole cultural history, but Christendom is ambiguous with one leg in the Semitic, Q-social tradition the other in the modern, intellectual one, Catholicism representing the former, while Lutheranism represents the latter. Excuse my grumpy style, but I'm aghast of how this discussion has mangled the MOQ. Bodvar "Bo" Skutvik Stephen > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
