Hi Bo: You wrote:
> Hello Stephen, pleased to meet you if we haven't spoken earlier. > > I'm from the original Lila Squad times and am reeling from more > than ten years of fighting for the MOQ, yet seeing it deteriorating > every day and is why I just had a fleeting glance ate the Catholic > page you referred to on 27 July: it's about as far from the MOQ's > social LEVEL as possible. Yes, indeed. > > I thought it would be interesting to take a look at how one group of > > people (Catholics) look at social level values. Is there any parallel > > to social values we usually discuss? What are the overarching > > intellectual values/ideals driving these social teachings? > > The real Q-social level's purpose was (still is) a dynamic revolt > against biological value of merely eating and proliferating, thus > social value was/is about checking this "jungle" existence and what > fulfills this purpose is a greater reality that transcends biological > life. Thus the proclaimed catholic human rights is about the least > Q-social value there is, they are all about the individual's > submission to the greater reality (religion most often, but can be > called "the common cause"). Also called "the public good," or "the public interest," described in the MOQ as submission to the Giant. > However, because intellectual value is the same revolt regarding > social value one of its its value aspects turns round human worth > and rights ... and THIS is what has reformed the original "raw" > social patterns to the present mellow "teachings" . The catholics > may believe that the individual's preservation is their agenda, but > the Semitic type religion are Q-social patterns and everything turns > round existence beyond, their least concern is Q-intellectual > welfare. Right. > I won't pull the whole cultural history, but Christendom is > ambiguous with one leg in the Semitic, Q-social tradition the other > in the modern, intellectual one, Catholicism representing the > former, while Lutheranism represents the latter. Excuse my > grumpy style, but I'm aghast of how this discussion has mangled > the MOQ. "Mangled" is putting it mildly. Best, Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
